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post #41 of 113 Old 03-09-2010, 05:17 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah well not going to harpoon anything, perhaps a shark in case i ever get attacked by one in my bathtub .
As for pulling out the decor and plants... I rather learn mind control and convince the fish to get out on it's own!
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post #42 of 113 Old 03-10-2010, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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Imjust added a new external filter a Resun EF-1600U(1600liters/hour).
Now i have the Tetratec with 1200l/h and the Resun with 1600l/h.
2800l/h filtration!
Why? Because i can!
Actually i got it because it has a incorporated UV light(11W) and i want to use it to kill whatever algae spores might be in the tank.
Also it's going to save me w/c. Before today i used to do a weekly w/c, about 30%, now i'm going to do it once every 2 weeks.
Idead? Thoughts?
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post #43 of 113 Old 03-10-2010, 01:12 PM
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I don't understand the thinking behind this last post. Filtration in a well-planted tank (which this is) should be minimal or non-existent. First, because the plants do a better job cleaning the water than any number of filters, and second because of the fish which is I would think our first concern in any aquarium. These forest fish occur in slow-moving quiet waters and they always unquestionably fare better in tanks with minimal water movement. The only "filter" in a planted tank is one that slowly circulates the water through screening media such as pads to remove suspended particulate matter' this keeps the water "clear", while the plants keep it "clean."

Algae is a natural part of an aquarium ecosystem. It is beneficial for fish and bacteria, and if the plants are healthy they will prevent algae from becoming a nuisance. The nutrients in balance with the light will ensure this happens.

As for water changes, nothing can replace the positive effect of a water change. It is a matter of opinion among planted tank authorities as to how often a water change should be done, and the sole reason is the effect of CO2 shifts on plants caused by water changes. No one can possibly doubt the positive effect of a water change on the fish in an aquarium. And back to my original point, the fish are or should be our prime concern.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #44 of 113 Old 03-10-2010, 02:04 PM
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such a beautiful tank.
have you tried to put cucumber in the jar ?

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #45 of 113 Old 03-10-2010, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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Byron i added the second filter mostly for the UV. I want those algae spores to die! All of them. A while ago i had a smaller tank(about 120L or so) that got invaded by algae. In rather short time it looked like a swamp. Green water, algae on the glass, on the snails, on the wood, plants, filter intake, gravel. It was a algae utopia. I really don`t want to remember how hard it was to get rid of them. Blackouts, dead plants, totally imbalanced water parameters, dead plants, etc. In one word(not sure i can use it) HELL.
Now algae may be a natural part of the aquarium but i think the less they are the better.
The water movement is minimum, the outtakes of the filters are positioned in such a way that they create minimal water movement, minimal enough to not be a issue.
As for the plants keeping the aquarium clean... I don't doubt they can keep it clean but they will never do what a good filtration does.
Besides what harm can 2 filters do? Except for the water movement that is minimum.
Willow thanks and yes, did try with cucumber and he just ignored it. But i will get him one day, alive and well and donate him to someone that can use his skills :).
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post #46 of 113 Old 03-13-2010, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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Bit of an update on then tank after some trimming:
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post #47 of 113 Old 03-13-2010, 02:34 PM
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good luck.
that tank is beautiful,it really is.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #48 of 113 Old 03-13-2010, 08:17 PM
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Lovely tank! Really, really nice.

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post #49 of 113 Old 03-13-2010, 09:12 PM
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Your tank is beautiful! The 3 algae eaters are probably octo's since there small. Theres room for another 20 tetra's. The angels shouldnt eat the neon's when they grow. i know from experience. As long as they grow up with small fish and fed well, they'll get along fine.
-Markiee :)
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post #50 of 113 Old 03-14-2010, 05:13 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the comments.
At the moment the angels are not here anymore, i donated them along with the gurami.
The 3 algae eaters are aymonieri(chinese algae eaters) but they need to go also since they don't do much algae eating anyway, they are contempt with eating the fish food and they wil also grow into huge grumps. They already are grumps but the fish police(barbus tetrazona) are still able to keep them under control still they need to go. I have no use of a fish that does nothing but be a grump .
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