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post #1 of 21 Old 10-18-2011, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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75 stock and set up

Hey, so i soon plan on upgrading my 40 gal setup to a 75 gallon. I might even do it in a closet and cut a hole to the other side (the living room) for a real nice view. Anyway, this is gonna be my planned setup and stock.

75 gallon hood/aquarium combo
upgraded light bulbs, probably zoomed ultra suns, or reef sun compact florescent
Ameriwood stand
Undergravel Filter w/ 2 powerheads
Black Gravel
2 sand banks in grey on each side
Centerpiece will be the large 2 piece sunken ship i currently have in my 40 gallon
additional decor will be a Rock cave, Dragon with airstone medium, lantern
natural mystic background
Aqueon Quietflow 55/75
tetra whisper air pump

my stocking plan is
live bamboo in the sand banks
green swordtails 5
dalmatian mollies 3
black lyretail mollies 2
panda mollies 2
golden wonder killie 1
dwarf gourami 2
chinese algae eater 1
angelfish 2

a couple things i'm unsure of are the filtration, and whether or not to add some kind of substrate for the bamboo
i also don't know what the best heater would be, and i would like to get an automatic feeder
any suggestions?
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post #2 of 21 Old 10-19-2011, 08:44 AM
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bamboo is not an aquatic plant. i know stores sell it as such, but it will just die eventually if it is under water. it's leaves need to be able to get to the air for it to do well at all.

also, have a look at the Chinese algae eater profile (click on the shaded name). they really aren't the best for community tanks.

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post #3 of 21 Old 10-19-2011, 09:15 AM Thread Starter
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i had bamboo growing in my 40 gal at one point, it's fine as long as you let it grow above the water. there are over 1000 types of bamboo. Lucky Bamboo is what they sell in pet stores and is the most hardy. It will survive almost completely submerged.

as for the chinese algae eater... good call lol.
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I don't know much about killies, but don't gouramis and angels need much different water parameters than the livebearers? And isn't there a risk of interbreeding when keeping swords and mollies together? Sounds like there might be some wrinkles to iron out. Have you looked at each species profile at the top of the page in the navigation bar? Good luck!

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I don't know much about killies, but don't gouramis and angels need much different water parameters than the livebearers? And isn't there a risk of interbreeding when keeping swords and mollies together? Sounds like there might be some wrinkles to iron out. Have you looked at each species profile at the top of the page in the navigation bar? Good luck!
gouramis will be ok, but that is a good point about the angles, they like soft, acidic water while livebearers need harder water.

swords and mollies will not interbreed. swords and platies can and mollies and guppies can, but not the other way.

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at the moment i have swords, mollies, killies, and angels in my 40 gallon and they all seem to be thriving. i've read people report of aggression between angels and platys but they all have enough space to be comfortable.
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what are your water parameters? especially hardness. this is where livebearers differ from most of the tropical fish.

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In the fish profiles, its says that Dwarf Gourami needs water that is "acidic to slightly basic (pH 6 to 7.5)" and that the Common Molly needs water that is "basic (pH 7.5 to 8.5)". It doesn't sound like these mesh well.

I'm not super educated on this, I understand that there is some confusion in the area... but my understanding is that it may be possible for Mollies and Swordtails to interbreed. Of course, this isn't recommended. Even aqadvisor.com recognizes the possibility and has a warning when the two are listed in an aquarium together. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I'm not entirely convinced.

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I'm not super educated on this, I understand that there is some confusion in the area... but my understanding is that it may be possible for Mollies and Swordtails to interbreed. Of course, this isn't recommended. Even aqadvisor.com recognizes the possibility and has a warning when the two are listed in an aquarium together. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I'm not entirely convinced.

swords and mollies are different families: swords and platies are
Xiphophorus and mollies and guppies are Poecili. being different families, they can not crossbreed.

(not entirely sure family is the correct term, it has been too long since i learned the terms for that stuff, but i know species isn't right.)

(i also do not know why my font changed color, but i can't get it to go back to black)

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I'm gonna have to pick up more water tests after work. But yea swords are part of the platy family. I based my stocking plan on a compatibility chart assuming the water parameters would be about the same for all fish
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