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post #21 of 26 Old 01-03-2012, 09:07 PM
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Everything is going alright with my fish but my plants are not doing all that great. Please look at the pics and see if you guys know whats going on.

Some reason the pic uploader wouldnt let me upload anything so i used imgur. here is the link:

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please helP!

oh and also there is a LOT of green dot algae growing on the glass. I have the light on from 3pm to 11pm everyday. Should i cut the lights back even more?
Yes, there certainly is a problem, so let's resolve it. First, I need some data. I've gone back through this thread, assume this is correct:
Tank is 55g (4 feet length)
Light is single tube 48-inch T5 HO Life-Glo 6700K, duration 8 hours daily.

You mention cutting the light back more; was it previously more than 8 hours and if so, when did you reduce it to 8?

What nutrients/fertilizers are you using, and how often? What is your tap water GH and pH (and tank if different)?

What I can tell you just from seeing the photos and knowing the light, is that the light is too strong for the nutrients; hence the algae issues. But the appearance of the plants tells me something is missing, so don't mess with the light until we have the nutrients sorted.

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post #22 of 26 Old 01-04-2012, 12:30 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, there certainly is a problem, so let's resolve it. First, I need some data. I've gone back through this thread, assume this is correct:
Tank is 55g (4 feet length)
Light is single tube 48-inch T5 HO Life-Glo 6700K, duration 8 hours daily.

You mention cutting the light back more; was it previously more than 8 hours and if so, when did you reduce it to 8?

What nutrients/fertilizers are you using, and how often? What is your tap water GH and pH (and tank if different)?

What I can tell you just from seeing the photos and knowing the light, is that the light is too strong for the nutrients; hence the algae issues. But the appearance of the plants tells me something is missing, so don't mess with the light until we have the nutrients sorted.

Byron.
the tank is 55g, light is 48in t5 HO, and its on 8 hours daily. Cut back from 12 hours as of last week. even before i reduced the light the leaves were starting to look like that but i cut the light because I had hair algae growing and lots of green dot algae so i was told to cut it down to 8 hours.

I use seachem excel a cap ful everyother day, Iron once, and the comprehensive supplement once or twice a week.

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post #23 of 26 Old 01-04-2012, 03:42 AM
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Awesome. I like the concept. Kind of reminds me of an Amazon aquarium theme.

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the tank is 55g, light is 48in t5 HO, and its on 8 hours daily. Cut back from 12 hours as of last week. even before i reduced the light the leaves were starting to look like that but i cut the light because I had hair algae growing and lots of green dot algae so i was told to cut it down to 8 hours.

I use seachem excel a cap ful everyother day, Iron once, and the comprehensive supplement once or twice a week.
The iron is causing problems too. That's why I asked for the GH of the tap (and tank if different) because excess iron can also replace calcium in leaves of swords, and I see evidence of iron excess that may be just the iron or combined with a low calcium level. Can you give me the GH? You can get this from your water supply people, no need to buy a test kit.

This is beginning to come together, but I would like to do the complete picture.

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Vancouver, BC, Canada

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The iron is causing problems too. That's why I asked for the GH of the tap (and tank if different) because excess iron can also replace calcium in leaves of swords, and I see evidence of iron excess that may be just the iron or combined with a low calcium level. Can you give me the GH? You can get this from your water supply people, no need to buy a test kit.

This is beginning to come together, but I would like to do the complete picture.
I tried to look for the Gh levels and i cant seem to find it. I live in Grand Rapids Mi. Any advice?


I should also mention that the problem isnt happening all over the tank. Just down the center mostly..I notice that the leaves start getting little black spots on them and then they start getting the holes. The left side and right side of the tank, even with the same species of plant. seem to be fine. i can get more pics if you want to see what im talking about it. let me know. Thanks.
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I tried to look for the Gh levels and i cant seem to find it. I live in Grand Rapids Mi. Any advice?


I should also mention that the problem isnt happening all over the tank. Just down the center mostly..I notice that the leaves start getting little black spots on them and then they start getting the holes. The left side and right side of the tank, even with the same species of plant. seem to be fine. i can get more pics if you want to see what im talking about it. let me know. Thanks.
Yes, more photos might help. Full tank shot, and clear close-up of entire plants (tip of leaf to substrate).

On the water, can you post a link to their website? I'll have a look.

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