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post #31 of 39 Old 08-29-2011, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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here are some pics i took after planting the plants on wednesday and then going away till tonight.

i was very amazed at some of the growth i saw in just 5 days!

i was short on floating plants so i let some bunch plants i bought float, plus the frog bit plus some water sprite.

an interesting thing about the water sprite...it was floating and there were 3 vertical shoots going out of the water up to my lights...should i leave them be?

also some vals and a mini chain sword i planted came uprooted while i was gone but i stuck them back in...hopefully they didnt die.

here are some pics. feel free to offer any advice on changes or something i could do better as i have never planted an aquarium before. (i have some tannins in the water which is why it looks a bit brown, plus my crappy iphone camera haha)




byron, the one below this is the sword that has what looks like a new root system growing way above the substrate i talked about earlier.











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an interesting thing about the Water Sprite...it was floating and there were 3 vertical shoots going out of the water up to my lights...should i leave them be?
Yes, that is normal. But if the fronds grow under the light and touch the glass, they will usually "burn" onto the glass, so I would remove them, just pinch the stem off at the base.

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byron i also took a picture of what looks like "new" roots growing up high on my sword plant if you wanna comment on that for me :D
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byron i also took a picture of what looks like "new" roots growing up high on my sword plant if you wanna comment on that for me :D
Missed that earlier, sorry. That looks like an inflorescence or flower spike; this is a sturdy "stem" growing from the crown like the leaves but it will usually reach the surface and may grow above it out of the water. Flowers are rare when the plants are grown permanently submersed [read more in the profile of any of the Echinodorus species, example Echinodorus bleherae] but adventitious plants will develop. You can leave these or remove them when they are larger. If you remove them, wait until there are several leaves and some more white roots, then plant them as a little plant.

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post #35 of 39 Old 08-31-2011, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
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so i guess that i didnt soak my drift wood long enough and its turning my water brown.

if i recall other than looking bad there isnt really anything wrong with it.

i have been doing my weekly water changes a bit heavier than normal to try and get these tannins out but it really doesnt seem to be helping much.

i dont want to do more frequent water changes because the prime takes out the liquid ferts right?

any other suggestions? or just have to ride it out?
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Ride it out.


Or pull it and run it through the dishwasher 5+ times.


I did that on some larger pieces I couldn't boil and had 0 problems with brown water.


I forgot on the damn mopani wood and already tied a bunch of java fern to it. So I'm in your boat on one tank.
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post #37 of 39 Old 09-01-2011, 07:09 AM Thread Starter
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i dont want to pull it.

its getting pretty brown.

also what kind of schedule do you guys use for dosing liquid fert twice a week? i think i remember prime being active for up to 48 hrs? so example:

change on monday
Fert on wed and friday?
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I didn't know Prime messed with the fertilizer. I was putting it in with the new water! Doh!
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A water conditioner that detoxifies heavy metals (most, but not all, do) will obviously detoxify the mineral nutrients in a fertilizer that are heavy metals. Iron, zinc, nickel, manganese are heavy metals and important plant nutrients. If your water conditioner detoxifies metals, it would be best to dose the plant fertilizer the day following a water change. I had the folks at Seachem tell me this with respect to Prime and Flourish. Now, I can't say it would make a great difference, but if there is a chance that the conditioner will negate the nutrients, I'd prefer to wait a day rather than risk wasting the fertilizer.

On the wood tannins, yes, there is no health risk to fish. Unsightliness is the only drawback. Some fish (those from blackwater habitats) will find tannic water ideal, and might even spawn. But none will be harmed. Part of the haze in your photos may be normal in new tanks, and likely bacterial in origin. I have new setups that sometimes take weeks to fully clear from this, others do so in a couple days. Not a problem, unless the fish show signs of trouble.

Byron.

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