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post #31 of 74 Old 03-09-2013, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
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Oh don't worry! I'll definitely put them in one species at a time. Which comes first probably depends on how much algae I'm seeing once I feel then tank is ready for fish. Yeah the stalks are already splitting, they should have grown into healthy new shoots within a few days.
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Oh don't worry! I'll definitely put them in one species at a time. Which comes first probably depends on how much algae I'm seeing once I feel then tank is ready for fish. Yeah the stalks are already splitting, they should have grown into healthy new shoots within a few days.
Do yourself a favour, if you start seeing algae, either reduce your light period or reduce the number of white LEDs firing. It would suck if your dedicated algae eaters didn't like your variety of algae and it got out of hand.

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The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

Small scale nitrogen cycle with a jar, water and fish food; no substrate, filter etc
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post #33 of 74 Old 03-09-2013, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah this is something I'll be sure to keep a close eye on. Lack of diverse algae eaters is one of my biggest concerns for this tank. In the past I've always used a combination of shrimp, otos, siamese algae eaters (real ones), and plecostomus for algae control and that worked real well. Speaking of lighting I need to remember to get a timer for my light...
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My experience has been that a razor blade works rather well for algae in small tanks.
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On the glass right? Do you clean the razor first? Some of them are pretty greasy...
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On the glass right? Do you clean the razor first? Some of them are pretty greasy...
Yes, the glass. I don't use them on anything except the aquarium.
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post #37 of 74 Old 03-12-2013, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
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Good news and bad news.

I came home from class yesterday to only 4 shrimp left in the tank. Found them dead in the filter. I had noticed a couple days before that the biggest shrimp had gone missing. Water test showed about .5ppm nitrite and 5ppm nitrate. I think the big one died (somewhere), and started to foul the water. the other shrimp probably got sicka nd started to float, and then got skimmed of the top and died. So I fished out the casualties and did a pac. Remaining shrimps perked up immediately and are still looking decent today.

On the bright side, I read somewhere online that the brown tinge on my bacopa leaves could be nitrogen deficiency. Immediately following the shrimp loss the bacopa perked up, turned a darker green, and began to grow even faster. It's growing about .25" to .5" per day, and the new growth is very dense. Each node has fresh leaves sprouting at all times and many nodes are dropping roots (picture attached). I'm going to snip and replant all the rooting nodes to continue increasing my density. The dead hair grass is finally thinning out, which helps the look of the tank a lot. The anubias is growing slowly, just chillin looking great with its big healthy leaves. I'm still not happy with how the leaves catch debris though, need to get some otos in here! The rotala is not improving. The tops do have fresh new growth, which is a beautiful bright pink color, but most of the stems are very ratty. I think they are getting too much flow and they delicate leaves are just getting damaged. I'm going to try moving it and adding something like spiral val in it's place. If anyone has a plant they think I'd like I'd love to hear it!

I'm going out of town for 5 days at the end of next week. I would like to have a new set of shrimp in the tank and feeling well established by the time I leave so that everything can stay healthy while I'm gone. I think I'd like to try ordering online this time. Does anyone have any online shops they really like? I was looking at: Bob's Tropical Plants - Home and Invertebrates by Msjinkzd | Specializing in invertebrates and micro fish from around the world.
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I ordered plants from Bob's. No issues at all.


The Wet Spot always has a ton of fish in stock. They currently have these shrimp in stock:
Amano Shrimp
Blueberry Shrimp
Cherry Red Shrimp
Golden Sunset Shrimp
Giant Blue Wood Shrimp
Marble Wood Shrimp
Singapore Shrimp

Almost at the very bottom of the list: Click
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BTW I've never ordered from them. I've read a lot of good things about them and from browsing their website they seem to be pretty good at what they do. They stock mostly wild caught fish.

Once I figure out a direction with my current tank I'll be ordering from them.
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post #40 of 74 Old 03-16-2013, 09:41 PM Thread Starter
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Update

Hi guys, figured it was time for another update!

Tank is still coming down from it's nitrite spike. Remaining ghost shrimp are doing ok, no more losses and water parameters are improving. I've blocked some of the light as raising the fixture didn't seem to do enough. The new light levels seem much better and put me at about 2.3W/G. I think I'll probably rewire it with a few less diodes soon. I've continued to lightly dose seachem flourish every few days (3-4).

I moved the rotala out of the flow of the filter outlet, so we will see how it looks in a little while. I think if it doesn't improve I'm going to take it out and try something else. Possibly cabomba, as I like the finer leaf structure. The bacopa is still giving me a hard time. The tops grow extremely fast, older growth wilts and eventually develops holes/tears. Generally after the new leaves are a couple days old and have a few newer leaves growing above them they start to wilt, no idea why. The anubias nana is alright, I think it's generally pretty healthy as it's growing a bit and the leaves look ok. Some of the leaves have little brown spots on them, but I think this is just diatoms. There is one leaf on the left that has developed a white tip, I'm not sure what this is or if I need to do anything. You can see both the supposed diatoms and the white tip in the picture. The hair grass is still growing like mad and just looks better and better. Each time I do a water change I tease out the new growth and replant it, so you can see it all over the front of the tank now. The old dead blades continue to thin out.

I noticed that my PH is drifting between about 6.9 and 7.2, is this ok? Part of it is probably just me slightly misreading the colors each time, but it does seem to vary a bit.

Thanks for showing me the wet spot strand, their selection is impressive!
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