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post #31 of 150 Old 04-06-2012, 09:46 AM
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Thank you. I'm going to assume the same would be true for the Aponogeton undulatus. Waiting on pics, but I'm thinking the plan is to order one each of the Aponogetons and the lily. Two java ferns. Three each of Cryptocoryne lucens, undulata, wendtii brown and wendtii green. Only thing I'm looking for yet is water sprite.
This sounds good to me.

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post #32 of 150 Old 04-09-2012, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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Bad picture but so far this is my hardscape. I hoping it looks like roots growing down, otherwise I should turn it the other way so it branches up. Not sure if that's sufficent, hardscapewise but it was all the driftwood I had that I liked for this tank.

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post #33 of 150 Old 04-13-2012, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
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The first of my plants came in so I thought I'd show what I've done. I have crypt wendtii brown and green as well as crypt lucens. I think I planted everything correctly and put them in the right place (wasn't 100% sure which was which). Sorry about the flash in the first pic, that's why I'm putting in the second pic. Sadly you can see how I got water behind the background when I was installing the filter...ugh.




The wendtii green looks bad, with almost no leaves but I expected that. The lucens though looks great and I hope it stays that way. I also received 4 extra apon bulbs ( no idea what species, probably a mix) that are going in the right back corner. I know Byron said to only have one, but they were free so I don't think it would hurt to try. I can always remove them.

Still waiting for delivery of water sprite (floating), C. retrospiralis (back left corner to help hide the filter), C. undulata (left side), and Nymphaea stellata (not sure where).

I could use a few suggestions. A good place for the lily, something nonsubstrate rooted to have around the base of the driftwood (think it would look better if it appears the driftwood is coming up through a plant as opposed to out of the ground), and what would look good if anything behind the driftwood.
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I would space the crypts apart more. Also, if they came in pots, there is usually several separate plants bunched together, and these can be divided (when you remove the rock wool it will be obvious) and planted separately. About 1.5 to 2 inches apart works, the plants will get bushier and send out runners.

The shorter crypts I would have closer to the front or mid-tank. They will be lost in the back. Some of the shorter crypts around the base of the wood will look natural.

The lily could go in the right rear corner, or behind the wood if the wood is not too close to the walls. The floating leaves will grow up around the wood.

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I would space the crypts apart more. Also, if they came in pots, there is usually several separate plants bunched together, and these can be divided (when you remove the rock wool it will be obvious) and planted separately. About 1.5 to 2 inches apart works, the plants will get bushier and send out runners.

The shorter crypts I would have closer to the front or mid-tank. They will be lost in the back. Some of the shorter crypts around the base of the wood will look natural.

The lily could go in the right rear corner, or behind the wood if the wood is not too close to the walls. The floating leaves will grow up around the wood.
No pots, but they were in rockwool. I try to remove as much as I could without tearing the roots. I'll pull them up again and see if I can seperate them. The ones in the very front (i think the green wendtii) there isn't much too, very small roots as well as few leaves.

I think those are the brown wendtii in the back. I was told they get almost the size of the red variety, so I put them back there. I can move them front though if you think it would look better. I have no clue when it comes to this stuff.

The driftwood is partially buried. Would that affect something with a long root system like a crypt? Or would I be better off breaking the biotope and trying something like Anubias nana? Attached to a small, flat rock and placed around the wood. Also should I try growing something on the wood? No idea how that would look. I just like the idea of seeing the wood poking through some lush growth.

I got my second order of plants and seems like I got even more than I ordered, especially if I break down pots. I got 9 retrosprialis, 4 pots of undulata, 2 bunches of water sprite, and 2 lily bulbs. :D

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post #36 of 150 Old 04-14-2012, 04:30 PM Thread Starter
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Forget the anubias. I have a mess of plants and it looks like chaos. No need for more.
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post #37 of 150 Old 04-14-2012, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Not happy with the results and am unsure if I should let it grow in. More likely I want to move things around first. Right now it's giving me a petshop vibe.



As far as fish go, I saw Danionella translucida for sale. I've never heard of them before, but think they were be way too small. Thought they were interesting though.
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post #38 of 150 Old 04-14-2012, 08:50 PM
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Sometimes I fuss with layout for days.

On that (newish) fish, yes, it is not easy to combine with others, more info here:
Danionella dracula - Seriously Fish

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post #39 of 150 Old 04-14-2012, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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After breaking apart the pots and groups I just have a ton of plants. I either need to get rid of some or plant them closer. There's no open space and things just look too orderly.

Thanks for the link. That's another new species to me. D. translucida seems to be even smaller than D. dracula. Wikipedia (if you want to trust it), says about 11 mm for the translucida. Here's the best page I could find about them. Danionella translucida: A Micro Glassfish | Details | Articles | TFH Magazine
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post #40 of 150 Old 04-15-2012, 01:03 PM
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I happen to be setting up a similar tank to what you are.

The crypts can be broken up into individual plants with just a few leaves per plant, I got about 20 plants out of one small bunch. Separated like this and planted more randomly will give a more natural look. This may be more difficult with your coarser gravel, I found that the long, angled forceps to be a big help.

Here are some of mine planted - not looking so good as they didn't like being uprooted - still have a lot more to add:
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