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post #1 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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25 gallon fish tank 55 fishes help?

25 gallon tropical fish tank, 55 fish?

I have created a beautifull home for my 55 tropical fish, they live in a 25 gallon tank I was wondering if another 8 more neon tetras would discomfort them, I have the following fish:
8 neon tertas
11 penguin tetras
2 scissor tales
7 zebra danios
2 mollies
3 african dwarf frogs
2 weather loach
10 platties
2 guromies
1 bumble bee catfish
1 pleco
4 mountain minous
6 guppies

What are your thoughts on 8 more neon tetras because they are not schooling
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post #2 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 03:26 PM
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If this is really a 25 gallon tank, you have way too many fish in it now. And some of these are not compatible, which makes it even worse for the fish.

Are there live plants? How often do you do water changes, and how much water is changed?

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I' d say you already have far too many fish for that tank. You don't need more neons - 8 should be fine. They will not form a tight shoal as such unless they are stressed by a predator or something. Most common shoaling fish don't keep in a tight shoal but are usually dispersed throught the tank, with the exception of rummy nose tetras and maybe some others.
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post #4 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
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I change 30% of the water once a week, which fish are not compatable as they seem ok together?
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post #5 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 03:46 PM
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I'm going to guess..

1. Gouramis and tetras since the Gouramis are calm, sedate fish and tetras are active.

2. Mountain minnows are coldwater fish, and the rest are tropical.

3. Weather loaches can get up to 16 inches, and are too big for the tank.
3a. Weather loaches (like all loaches) need a group to thrive.

4. Scissor tales can be agressive.

I agree the tanks overstocked. Can you test the water with a liquid test kit? I'm curious to see your nitrite and ammonia levels.

What kind of filtration are you using?

To answer your original question, tetras probably won't school by adding more, and your tank is quite overstocked.

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post #6 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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I also have java moss, I will test the water now and get back to you
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post #7 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Ammonia 0.5
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 25
Ph 7.6
The filter is a fluvel U2 I also have an air pump
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post #8 of 18 Old 04-23-2011, 04:11 PM
I agree with redchigh and byron completely. When I saw your list of fish in a 25 gal tank, I was in shock. Which I am not blaming you, you just might not have known or had been incorrectly informed by someone.

I mean the tank would be stocked (even possibly overstocked) with just the platy, guppy, molly, danios, and ADFs.

Dont know what kind of pleco you have, but I am going to guess its one of the larger species in which a 25 gal is way too small (not to mention they have huge bioloads). The pleco & the loaches, they need a MUCH larger tank. And as redchigh said, they need a larger group for the loaches.

I'd think the gourami would be okay with the neons, as neons from my experience are rather slow compared to other tetra, at least when they arent stressing out. Dont know what kind of gouami you have, but some require a much larger tank as well. But the other tetra could stress the gourami out, if not them then the hyper guppies for sure.

Are you able to set up a second tank? Setting up a 55 gallon and transfering some of your current fish to it would be a great option. Or is it possible to re-home some of those fish? How long have you had this many fish in that tank? How long has the tank been set up?

With that many fish in that size tank, I doubt there is ample room or reason for the tetras to school.

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Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
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My tank had been like this for a few months as a friends tank was leaking and was going to flush them so I felt compelled to take them into my tank, times are hard and I cannot afford another tank to put some fish into x
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My tank had been like this for a few months as a friends tank was leaking and was going to flush them so I felt compelled to take them into my tank, times are hard and I cannot afford another tank to put some fish into x
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I understand finaces and situations of rescue.
However, i wouldnt be adding any fish to this tank for any reason.
And for the health of the fish, have you thought about trying to re-home some of them, or maybe seeing if a local fish store will take some in for store credit?

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Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
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