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post #1 of 12 Old 06-28-2011, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
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25 g tank with a dwarf Gourami. Other ideas?

Alright so... I am thinking of a tank mate for my dwarf Gourami in a 25 gallon tank. First off, I want something slower moving. I have plants and do not want anyone who will be dislodging plants or eating them for that matter. I like something with color... maybe I should just keep a few of my male Guppies but honestly all the fin nipping and screwing around is exhausting rather then relaxing. Anyone else have thoughts or suggestions here?

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post #2 of 12 Old 06-28-2011, 09:47 PM
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you could try some cherry barbs, theyre colorful and wont run around nipping evryone. or if you want color maybe some rasboras...or even some nice rams since theyll stay toward the bottom and leave your gourami alone

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Yes, rasbora are one of the best for gourami. And there are several species, just not the dwarfs (Boraras species) that might get eaten. Cherry barb is the only barb suitable for a 25g tank. For substrate fish, corys, a group of 5; or one of the small loach species, a group of 5, we have the dwarf loach and the banded dwarf loach in the profiles. [These loaches need soft slightly acidic water.] Or a whiptail catfish. A Bolivian Ram (single), or a pair of common Blue Ram.

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Just wondering... would those same tankmates work with a cholocate gourami? (notably the ram, rasboras, and cories)

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Yes, rasbora are one of the best for gourami. And there are several species, just not the dwarfs (Boraras species) that might get eaten. Cherry barb is the only barb suitable for a 25g tank. For substrate fish, corys, a group of 5; or one of the small loach species, a group of 5, we have the dwarf loach and the banded dwarf loach in the profiles. [These loaches need soft slightly acidic water.] Or a whiptail catfish. A Bolivian Ram (single), or a pair of common Blue Ram.
Thank you crazy4fish and Byron for the suggestions. Would I need to worry about Bolivian Ram being lonely or the Blue Rams becoming territorial when breeding? I am almost paranoid to get male and female same species fish in a tank. I had a whole Guppy-paloosa going on and was bringing fish to the fish store every few weeks. I think I finally have all the females out now so hopefully we are good to go for awhile. If I were to get any 2 of the same species (other then Angels I already have or cories) I would like to know they will not be trying to breed and take over the tank.

Also, the Gourami is a Dwarf Flame Point Gourami. He (the fish store insisted it is a HE) is in constant movement back and forth across the back of the tank. Quite fast. I don't know this fish well as he is new (ish) but he is the polar opposite of my Opaline Gourami which is slow moving very peaceful/sedate fish. Is this because he is young? Could he dislike his environment? Any suggestions to make him more comfortable? Is it normal for the dwarf species to be more active?

Would a Dwarf Gourami look at a full size Gourami as a threat? Would it be possible for a male Dwarf to be in the same tank as the full size female? I am just wondering if he would be happier with Opaline?

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Would I need to worry about Bolivian Ram being lonely or the Blue Rams becoming territorial when breeding?
No on the Bolivian, as noted in the profile, these fish seem to occur in isolation. I've had a beautiful male for almost 3 years now in my 115g. I found him a female last year andhe killed her. Now he's on his own again.

All cichlids are rough when spawning. Some very much so. Usually with the dwarf species this means pushing other fish out of their way, or chasing. Sometimes can be problematic, sometimes not.

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Also, the Gourami is a Dwarf Flame Point Gourami. He (the fish store insisted it is a HE) is in constant movement back and forth across the back of the tank. Quite fast. I don't know this fish well as he is new (ish) but he is the polar opposite of my Opaline Gourami which is slow moving very peaceful/sedate fish. Is this because he is young? Could he dislike his environment? Any suggestions to make him more comfortable? Is it normal for the dwarf species to be more active?
This is a sign of stress at something. Could be new surroundings (different fish take different times to become acclimated); could be the fish itself.

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Would a Dwarf Gourami look at a full size Gourami as a threat? Would it be possible for a male Dwarf to be in the same tank as the full size female? I am just wondering if he would be happier with Opaline?
Possibly. Male gourami are territorial and thus aggressive to some degree, toward any male gourami, and sometimes females and other fish species.

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Just wondering... would those same tankmates work with a cholocate gourami? (notably the ram, rasboras, and cories)
I have twice had Chocolate gourami, two of the three species. They spawned several times, i had fry that developed nicely for several months, then something wiped out the entire group within days. They are highly prone to all sorts of health issues, particularly skin disease, parasites, etc. Velvet is most common with these fish. They need very, and I mean very, stable water, and warm, 80F or higher. Corys would suffocate in this.

The common Blue Ram might work; they stay near the substrate, chocolates upper water among floating plants (essential). Rasbora depending upon species. I had The Lambchop Rasbora in with my chocs. Also had sparkling gourami, they also spawned and several fry survived.

In a\ thread recently, another member mentioned chocolates at normal temp and being unfussy. Sounds questionable, but perhaps they were generations of tank-raised, though no source I have ever come across has suggested anything but warmth, perfect water, few suitable tankmates. Not an easy fish.

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Possibly. Male gourami are territorial and thus aggressive to some degree, toward any male gourami, and sometimes females and other fish species.

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If it were you, would you give it a try putting the Dwarf male (youngster) in with the peaceful full size female? I just wonder if he would be happier with slower more mellow fish. He is currently in with Guppies.

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If it were you, would you give it a try putting the Dwarf male (youngster) in with the peaceful full size female? I just wonder if he would be happier with slower more mellow fish. He is currently in with Guppies.
Yes I would try that Inga.

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post #10 of 12 Old 06-29-2011, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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Well, He is now in the big tank. The Angels are showing him interest. Not really aggressive just staring him down. He is shy. So far Blue (the Opaline) seems quietly curious. He hides a lot yet but is already starting to show himself a little more. Hopefully this works out. It just seems like they would enjoy each others company. Granted I am not a fish but I think company is good. This tank will be pretty peaceful then with just the Angels, the Gourami, The rainbow shark and the Corie's. I think if the Angels don't hurt the Ghost shrimp in there or the Corie's, hopefully they will also leave Dwarf Gourami alone. Oh yeah, and the Sailfin Pleco is in there too but he minds his own business and even backed off from a Ghost shrimp that reared up at him once. Talk about a good laugh. This is such a peaceful tank I just love staring at it. :)

I may not always make the best decisions but I do think a lot about them based on the behaviors I see going on in the tank. So far, so good. This will be the last addition to the tank.

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