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post #1 of 7 Old 11-30-2011, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
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20G Stocking Q: RedLizard vs BN Pleco

I have a new 20Gallon planted tank that I keep in the 78 degree range, my PH runs right around 7.5, and my water is on the hard side. My setup can be seen in this thread: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...ed-tank-86826/

Currently it houses 1 male Betta, and I had intended to add 4 or 5 Bronze Corrys later this week or early next week, a few Plattys the week after that, and finish the stocking off with a Red Lizard Whiptail the week after that.
However, I find that my desire to watch my Betta and enjoy the tank as much as possible has led to an algae issue
I was at my LFS today, and when I asked about the Red Lizard the clerk said he hadn't seen one in the shop before and wasn't sure that they were available through their breeder.
He recommended either a Rubberlipped Pleco or a Bristlenose Pleco to control the algae instead of the RL Whiptail.
I think the Rubberlip gets a little bigger than I want in my tank (I found a source that said up to 7 inches), but the LFS has a nice perky and very active female albino BN pleco that I think would work.

My first question is, if I go with the Pleco over the Whiptail, will I still have room for the Corrys or is that too many bottom fish?
My second question relates to the cleaning power of the Red Lizard Whiptail, is it good for algae control in a 20 gallon? I was assured that the Pleco is a "Good Worker" and keeps the tank quite clean of algae and debris. Does the Whiptail do so as well?
As a third bonus question, has anyone had a Betta in with Plattys? Do they get along or am I looking at trouble mixing the two?

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post #2 of 7 Old 11-30-2011, 02:12 PM
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I'm not going to speak to the stocking issue, but to the BN question. I love the BN Pleco (I have 11 of them). Having said that, please be very aware that any pleco can do damage to broad-leafed plants in your tank. The idea that BN plecos are totally "plant-safe" is just not true. I don't mind occasional holes in my Sword leaves from the plecos (and I feed them heavily on veggies every night). If you like the albino bristlenose, you might want to check out the longfin variety. It's a really impressive fish that stands out in a tank. The brown form tends to disappear in my tanks.

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I have a BN pleco in my 20 gallon and it is 98% algae free. They do not eat plants, they just eat the algae off of plants. I am not familiar with the red lizard however i know the BN will control your algae problem.


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Whiptails (species in the genus Rineloricaria) will spend all their time grazing every surface for algae and bits of food. Much like otos and Farlowella. The latter would not be good in hard water, the Whiptail is more adaptable. The Red Lizard Whiptail is similar, I have three plus a common Whiptail in my 115g.

With all of these, "algae" means common green algae or diatoms (brown algae). None will eat any of the other types, such as Brush, Hair, etc. Neither will a BN pleco for that matter. So depending upon what algae you have, something to consider.

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By the way, I checked your other thread, I like your aquascape. Nice work.

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Thanks Byron, coming from you that means a lot

I went ahead and got the Albino Bristlenose Pleco for my tank, and I think I managed to get a male.
They had two in the tank, only saw one yesterday, and while the LFS owner said they were still too young for reliable sexing, the one I got appears to have nubs up over the nostrils, between the eyes.
Hopefully it's a male, but a nice healthy female would be fine as well.
He's only been in the tank for a couple of hours and he's all over the place, scraping here, sucking there, stirring up the white snotty stuff on the log (I hope that goes away soon)
He seems quite happy, if a little jumpy, I saw him glide right over the algae disc I dropped in for him.

The Betta is quite happy as well, doesn't seem to quite know what to make out of the BN, but is definitely keeping a very curious eye on him.

Also got a bunch of Anacharis, it's currently floating, although I plan to plant it once I manage to find some Pennywort.
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I have a BN pleco in my 20 gallon and it is 98% algae free. They do not eat plants, they just eat the algae off of plants. I am not familiar with the red lizard however i know the BN will control your algae problem.
Good luck with that. IF they work for you great. I'm telling you based on evidence, unless my angelfish and Corys are eating my Ozelot and Amazon swords, that when they get large enough, they have the ability to munch plants just like every other pleco. They don't do as much plant damage since they are small, but they do not necessarily restrict themselved to 100% algae

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*560 gallons (2120 liters) in 5 tanks -> you do the math.
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post #7 of 7 Old 12-01-2011, 07:43 PM
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i have a live plant in driftwood that he doesnt go near. it could be your corys


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