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post #31 of 36 Old 05-31-2013, 10:46 AM
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The regular whiptail is listed as 68-77F whereas the red lizard is 71-82F... which, besides the colour, was one of the many reasons I chose the reds for my second tank.... still not as warm watered as the rams, which I think are 80-86F.

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Yes, thanks. This tank could be at 80F (considering rams, red whiptail and the espei rasbora).

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post #32 of 36 Old 05-31-2013, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
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ok thanks. I may end up staying away from the substrate fish then unless I find one I like that can take the higher temperature.

You guys seem to really like the plant idea. Any plants you would recommend to place in the tank? Floating or planted? (I only have gravel that I can put plants into though). I currently have cabomba but I would like extra

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post #33 of 36 Old 05-31-2013, 11:12 AM
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I like giant vallsneria to get some height, particularly in a tall tank... up the side or back and over the top if you let it go.... if you are keeping the water on the low end of the ram range at least.

Crypts (lots of varieties to choose from) and amazon swords (they get pretty large not just tall so one, maybe two max for a 20 gallon... I found two too much for a 37 tall).

Aponogetons are nice and a little less large than swords... I would choose them over swords if I were doing it again.

Brazilian Pennywort can be planted as a stem or floated, good versatile plant, I tried both and choose to float it now.

Dwarf lily (bulb) is on of my current favorites but I haven't' had it long enough to see how it will do. Green with red spots on the leaves, interesting variety.

I just go and look at the plants and pick ones that I like the look of and try them out... I've have about 30 varieties in my tank at one point or another in the last 5 months. Most work, a few I didn't care for so I am down to 20ish. Those listed above are my favorites... I've gotten away from stem plants for a variety of reasons, preference for leaves mainly.

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The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

Small scale nitrogen cycle with a jar, water and fish food; no substrate, filter etc
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When I got to the fish store, I was pretty limited on the amount of plants that I could get. SO, I ended up getting a sword (not sure on which variation) and some other red/green plant (I already forget what the name of it was). I also took some more pennywort (I believe thats what it is) out of my 10 gallon tank that was floating and put it in the 20 gallon. With the sword and the other plant, my tank looks a lot more lively and full.

As far as fish wise, I wanted to do some more research and keep seeing that dither fish would be good to go with my blue ram. I have read a couple places that guppies would be okay as a type of dither fish with my blue rams. They said that with the guppies having babies constantly, it would give my blue ram something as a live food to eat. Is this true, or is this not a good idea? The reason I ask, is because I already have a 10 gallon guppy tank that I could just move the guppy to the 20 gallon tank with my ram. I could put the serpae tetra in there short term until I can find a good place for them to go. Thoughts?
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When I got to the fish store, I was pretty limited on the amount of plants that I could get. SO, I ended up getting a sword (not sure on which variation) and some other red/green plant (I already forget what the name of it was). I also took some more pennywort (I believe thats what it is) out of my 10 gallon tank that was floating and put it in the 20 gallon. With the sword and the other plant, my tank looks a lot more lively and full.

As far as fish wise, I wanted to do some more research and keep seeing that dither fish would be good to go with my blue ram. I have read a couple places that guppies would be okay as a type of dither fish with my blue rams. They said that with the guppies having babies constantly, it would give my blue ram something as a live food to eat. Is this true, or is this not a good idea? The reason I ask, is because I already have a 10 gallon guppy tank that I could just move the guppy to the 20 gallon tank with my ram. I could put the serpae tetra in there short term until I can find a good place for them to go. Thoughts?
Your espei rasbora will make excellent dither fish, as they are quiet and peaceful.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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Ok thanks! I'll put up a couple pictures once I get my other rasbora!
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