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Old 05-02-2013, 10:54 AM   #11
 
That is a beautiful fish. Full of color which I feel would look good. Unfortunately, the fish store that I will be getting fish from does not appear to have them. I feel like after reading their profile that they would fit well in my tank, with my tank being 24" long I would be able to have one male and two female.

Are there any other cichlid that fall into this same size category?
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:54 AM   #12
 
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Yes, I was thinking one of the dwarf cichlids in Apistogramma, but most will be wild caught and thus require very soft water. A. cacatuoides is possible, though this is a harem fish and one male with 2-3 females; on reflection, this should work in a planted tank, lots of bits of wood and plants.

There are the "shellies" from Lake Tanganyika. But most other cichlids need more space (or different water for the dwarfs from SA).

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Old 05-02-2013, 11:34 AM   #13
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That is a beautiful fish. Full of color which I feel would look good. Unfortunately, the fish store that I will be getting fish from does not appear to have them. I feel like after reading their profile that they would fit well in my tank, with my tank being 24" long I would be able to have one male and two female.

Are there any other cichlid that fall into this same size category?
Always ask as sometimes they will bring in stuff. They just order what sells, I get that, but if one person shows an interest in a particular fish, they might consider bringing them in.

I got emerald catfish this way, and have a standing order for red lizard whiptail catfish that, if they are expensive (means not as easy to sell) they will call me before ordering them.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:56 PM   #14
 
I haven't decided what I want yet. I like the cockatoo dwarf cichlid. I may have to unfortunately go away from cichlids as I just can't decide on something nor do I want to push the limits of the fish that I will be putting in the tank.

I was just going for a different style of fish that has color and personality that would swim around my 20g. Cichlids were my choice because I have a friend who has them and he loves them. I would be okay with going for another style of fish whether it be a schooling fish or not. I want color in the tank. I may try to find a cockatoo cichlid at the fish store but if not I will ask them (going to Aquarium Adventure, a fish store in Columbus, OH that I feel is knowledgable about fish) and see what they suggest.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #15
 
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I haven't decided what I want yet. I like the cockatoo dwarf cichlid. I may have to unfortunately go away from cichlids as I just can't decide on something nor do I want to push the limits of the fish that I will be putting in the tank.

I was just going for a different style of fish that has color and personality that would swim around my 20g. Cichlids were my choice because I have a friend who has them and he loves them. I would be okay with going for another style of fish whether it be a schooling fish or not. I want color in the tank. I may try to find a cockatoo cichlid at the fish store but if not I will ask them (going to Aquarium Adventure, a fish store in Columbus, OH that I feel is knowledgable about fish) and see what they suggest.
If I may offer a suggestion to help avoid trouble down the road...look around, at fish in a good store, at our profiles...find fish you like, then learn about them...back to the profiles again. Believe me, this is the only way to success without harming fish along the way. There are lots of options, too many to list; but not everything works together, so it takes some careful thought and planning.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:14 PM   #16
 
Given your hardness and Ph I don't recommend Apistogramma species at all. They might be able to survive at your levels but wouldn't be happy.

You could look at some of the African dwarfs, Pelvicachromis species for example, that show lots of color and would be interesting to keep. Some of them are now becoming at risk too because of destruction of habitat and on-going fighting so you would be doing your bit to help conserve the species too.

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Old 05-30-2013, 02:59 PM   #17
 
I just wanted to update, I decided to go with some live plants, planted and floating, as well as 3 serpae tetra, 3 espei rasbora and one german blue ram. AQ advisor said that the ram would be too aggressive to go along with my rasbora, but they have been together for about 5 or so days with no signs of anything wrong. I added the ram last after my tank had been running for about a month or more ( I waited until my ammonia and nitrite both read a little and then both dropped to zero. I think adding the live plants and other things from one of my cycled tanks really helped the process. All the fish are doing great.

I read that the ram would be a picky eater which could cause him to have problems, but so far when ever I put food in the tank, he seems to eat quite well. He is constantly going around the tank picking at the plants and other things around the tank. I am very pleased with him and I am going to wait a couple weeks and if he is still doing good, I would like to get a female to go along with him (the people at my fish store as well as online said he would be much better with a female companion).

I just wanted to update and see if anyone had any thoughts on my setup?

(I have a Tetra 20 gallon filter and I just bought a sponge filter that I am putting in there that will arrive tomorrow. Also, I have quite a few snails in my tank now that have really helped keep in clean.)
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #18
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Good go on planting it... going to need some pictures, eh?

What temperature are you keeping the tank at? The rams are 80F+ fish.

You will want to up the tetra and rasbora groups to at least 6 each, they fair much better in groups. If you are adding one more ram for a pair and bringing the other groups up the tank will be a tight fit.

It's not so much a matter of seeing that nothing appears wrong in the very short term (5 days is very short) it's seeing that everything is right over the long term and being prepared to deal with issues that may end up not being correctable while trying to maintain the status quo with regards to tank stocking.

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Old 05-30-2013, 03:47 PM   #19
 
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The rasbora and ram are not the problem (or shouldn't be), but you may have trouble with the Serpae Tetra. They can be nasty; read the profile.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:52 PM   #20
 
My thought process is that I would like to add more serpae tetra, probably 3 more. I would like to add one more ram as well. As far as the rasbora go, I may leave them where they are at 3, and see how they go. That will be the extent of the fish. I would not have a problem getting rid of the rasbora, but as of now, things are okay and I want to see how they go.

I am keeping the tank at 81 degree. I have seen that rasbora would be good with this temperature, and it may be on the high end for tetra, but I keep most of my tanks a little high temperature wise.

As far as plants go, I am going to the store tomorrow to get a couple more plants to add, as the cabomba I have I don't really like now that I have them in my tank. I will probably keep some, but I would like to add different plants.
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