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post #11 of 31 Old 01-29-2017, 01:53 PM
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No I would not do two groups of livebearers in a tank of that size.

All fish sometimes nip at all other fish. They don't have hands to interact with each other . It's only when there seems to be an intent to harm the other fish that it's a problem. You'll notice such a fish exhibiting very aggressive dominant posturing between strikes. In such a situation you have to determine if it's better for the tank to remove the aggressive fish or the fish that's being picked on. It's easy to assume that the aggressor is the problem but within a school, often the problem is with the fish that's being targeted. That's why the fish is being targeted.

You could do a single 3 spot gourami instead of the dwarf gourami. Not too big and no it won't eat the other fish. At least not for a while. A fully grown 3 spot could eat the bloodfins. I don't think the 3 spot is the best choice. You could go with honey gouramis if you want to keep a group of them.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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No I would not do two groups of livebearers in a tank of that size.

All fish sometimes nip at all other fish. They don't have hands to interact with each other . It's only when there seems to be an intent to harm the other fish that it's a problem. You'll notice such a fish exhibiting very aggressive dominant posturing between strikes. In such a situation you have to determine if it's better for the tank to remove the aggressive fish or the fish that's being picked on. It's easy to assume that the aggressor is the problem but within a school, often the problem is with the fish that's being targeted. That's why the fish is being targeted.

You could do a single 3 spot gourami instead of the dwarf gourami. Not too big and no it won't eat the other fish. At least not for a while. A fully grown 3 spot could eat the bloodfins. I don't think the 3 spot is the best choice. You could go with honey gouramis if you want to keep a group of them.
Do the Honey Gouramis need to be kept in groups? Also, can the swordtails be substituted for Platies, Mollies, or Guppies? What is a cool fish I can keep instead of Danios or Tetras that are easy to breed?
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First things first. Its important that you leave some form of "margin of error" when it comes to stocking, and IMO, keeping livebearers aren't going to allow that. Instead, I would purchase all males so you don't have a large amount of fish in the tank. For fish like livebearers, and you want them to breed, I would seriously think of downsizing most of the stock to allow the margin of room.
Platies are fine in a 29g, and can be stocked similar to swordtails, mollies grow big, I'd suggest half the swordtail stocking level for mollies... and guppies are rather small, so a few extra won't really matter. (A good substitute in you go with the dwarf gourami species would be to get endler livebearers.)
Its reccomended to keep honeys in groups, they more outgoing are far less stressed then kept singularly or in a pair.
And easy to breed fish can vary from person to person, danios are easy to breed and some tetras are - emperors for example... If not, bristlenose catfish are a good choice - and make fantastic algae eater, constantly grazing on some forms of algae... Other than that, it really depends. Some say kribs make suitable breeders, bettas, killifish, small cichlids, other species of danio (and white cloud minnows), cherry barbs

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I have a plan for the Platies, my sister has a tank and I can move all the males there. There is plenty enough room. As for the honey gouramis, my only concern is Dwarf Gourami Disease. Will any full sized gourami be ok by itself in the tank, instead of a 3 spot?
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Last I had seen the DGD was specific to dwarf gouramis. Honey gouramis are their own species.

Your only other options for readily available full size gouramis, besides the 3 spot (and all it's morphs), are moonlight and pearl gouramis. You could try keeping a pair of pearls. I think they do better in a larger group but doesn't mean you can't do a pair.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Last I had seen the DGD was specific to dwarf gouramis. Honey gouramis are their own species.

Your only other options for readily available full size gouramis, besides the 3 spot (and all it's morphs), are moonlight and pearl gouramis. You could try keeping a pair of pearls. I think they do better in a larger group but doesn't mean you can't do a pair.
Anything else I could get instead of Gouramis? I haven't seen many around here and want to keep my options open.
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Can you list the fish you've decided on so far, for a quick reference.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Can you list the fish you've decided on so far, for a quick reference.
6-10 Cory Cats
5-10 Live Bearers (Platies most likely)
10 Danios (Other options would be cool)
Amano Shrimp
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Haha so the only fish your set on are the corys! Well, I think platies are the best choice of livebearer. You could keep a couple of dwarf cichlids with them. They are very interesting to keep. That covers the middle of the tank down. For the top half of the tank, i think you will really like the bloodfin tetras I had mentioned. From there you can still add a gourami, but the list of fish that stay in the top half of the tank is very short if you are no longer into that. You could do an African butterfly fish. They stay at the surface exclusively, looking really cool. Unfortunately the coolness ends with its looks. Were you to go that route, bloodfins shouldn't give the butterfly any trouble.

You could also do a pair of angelfish with your corys and platies, with some other schooling fish.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Haha so the only fish your set on are the corys! Well, I think platies are the best choice of livebearer. You could keep a couple of dwarf cichlids with them. They are very interesting to keep. That covers the middle of the tank down. For the top half of the tank, i think you will really like the bloodfin tetras I had mentioned. From there you can still add a gourami, but the list of fish that stay in the top half of the tank is very short if you are no longer into that. You could do an African butterfly fish. They stay at the surface exclusively, looking really cool. Unfortunately the coolness ends with its looks. Were you to go that route, bloodfins shouldn't give the butterfly any trouble.

You could also do a pair of angelfish with your cories and platies, with some other schooling fish.
I am interested in them I wrote it wrong, deleted it and never re-added it.

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6-10 Cory Cats
5-10 Platies
Full-Size Gourami or 3 Honey Gourami
10 Tetras
Amano Shrimp
Would this work as a planted tank?
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