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post #1 of 31 Old 01-28-2017, 11:46 PM Thread Starter
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So I have 2 questions.

Question 1: I let my tank sit from when all my old fish died because I didn't know what I was doing. I don't know why they died but it has been a while. At least a few months, probably almost a year. There is some neon colored gravel in the bottom, with lots of algae.(It looks like normal algae, not blue-green)There is a dead piece of bamboo and some ornaments. Is it ok to use the water that is currently in it, there was probably around 10 gallons and I filled it the rest of the way. If it isn't ok what do I do to make it ok?

Question 2: How many fish can I put in it? I have a 30-gallon heater and the Tank is a 29. I need to buy a new heater, however. I know what fish I want, I just don't know how many I can get. The fish I want are; Dwarf Gouramis, Cory Catfish, Amano Shrimp, and Swordtails. If there would be any other good additions please tell me, however, it seems like the tank would be fully stocked, if not overstocked so that's why I am asking here.

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post #2 of 31 Old 01-29-2017, 12:10 AM
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Answer 1: change all the water giving a good gravel vacuum and then refill. Don't clean anything though. I think that your tank will regain its cycle quickly. You may have lost most of your bacteria but I don't think you have lost all of it.

Answer 2: it's really rare that I get to say this - nice job picking appropriate fish for your tank! There's always at least one fish that doesn't belong. 1 dwarf gourami (they don't get along), 8-10 corys, and maybe 6-8 sword tails. Were I doing this, i would add a school of 10 zebra danios as well.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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Answer 1: change all the water giving a good gravel vacuum and then refill. Don't clean anything though. I think that your tank will regain its cycle quickly. You may have lost most of your bacteria but I don't think you have lost all of it.

Answer 2: it's really rare that I get to say this - nice job picking appropriate fish for your tank! There's always at least one fish that doesn't belong. 1 dwarf gourami (they don't get along), 8-10 corys, and maybe 6-8 sword tails. Were I doing this, i would add a school of 10 zebra danios as well.
Thanks so much, is there something I could replace with 3-5 of the Cories? Maybe something colorful like Gouramies. Also would Tetras be an alternative to Danios without being overstocked?
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Lots of people say 6 as a minimum for a school but in my opinion that number is 10. You can keep less than that if you want - it's your tank.

Yes bloodfin tetras are a good substitution for the danios. They will be active in the top quarter of the tank.

Assuming you have good filtration and do basic maintenance, I don't think you have to worry about overstocking. The fish you've selected and I suggested all occupy different regions of the tank. One thing you'll have to keep an eye on is the sword tails breeding. If you do a good job keeping them, you'll have babies to deal with. Few options are to give the fish to a store, or to someone who will us them as feeders. If you want to keep it all in House you can simply cull the fry that make it. One thing you can do that's totally hands off is fast the tank for several days after fry are dropped. That will ensure that none survive.

What else did you have in mind that you would want to add?

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Lots of people say 6 as a minimum for a school but in my opinion that number is 10. You can keep less than that if you want - it's your tank.

Yes bloodfin tetras are a good substitution for the danios. They will be active in the top quarter of the tank.

Assuming you have good filtration and do basic maintenance, I don't think you have to worry about overstocking. The fish you've selected and I suggested all occupy different regions of the tank. One thing you'll have to keep an eye on is the sword tails breeding. If you do a good job keeping them, you'll have babies to deal with. Few options are to give the fish to a store, or to someone who will us them as feeders. If you want to keep it all in House you can simply cull the fry that make it. One thing you can do that's totally hands off is fast the tank for several days after fry are dropped. That will ensure that none survive.

What else did you have in mind that you would want to add?
My Sister has a 20 gallon tall with 4 tetras and a small Algae Eater looking fish. I am not sure what it is, but hopefully, it isn't going to get big like some plecos. That is a home for some of them. I also may be getting a 55 gallon tank if I feel like I want to take on more. I also would be fine to give some to the local pet store. They don't have much for fish but they did have some tanks with swordtails I believe. Also, do you think they might even give store credit for them? If I got 2 female Gouramis would that work?
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Yeah you could get some store credit.

You could do a couple of female dwarf gouramis, if you were able to find them. Stores don't sell females because they aren't colorful.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Yeah you could get some store credit.

You could do a couple of female dwarf gouramis, if you were able to find them. Stores don't sell females because they aren't colorful.
That's why I didn't see any. I looked at a local pet store and only saw 1 male gourami and no females. I decided to go look at PetCo and there were 6 or 8 males in one tank, which must have been bad for them. They also had 2 sick fish in the same tank. One had ick and the other one I think was eating rocks. I saw it go to the bottom and I swear it picked up a rock and never spit it out. Could I pair a female with the male? Also when looking for fish that aren't nearby what is a good online place to order them?
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Again, you could try a pair, if you could find a female. It's not something we see too often but the 2? times on here that someone tried it (that I saw, in a larger tank btw), the males killed the females.

Yeah the way fish are kept at the store is only temporary, so you see a lot of things that you shouldn't emulate. We regularly see people say "the fish store is keeping them like that so why can't I?"

If there are sick fish in the tank, do not buy. Picking at the substrate is just foraging behavior so that's no big deal.

Aquabid.com is the place to go. Depending on where you live and where the seller is, you may have to wait for a warm stretch to get them shipped. I've never paid for overnight delivery and only once did I receive dead fish, out of about a dozen orders. Even though they say there's no guarantee without overnight, many of the sellers will work with you in the event of DOAs. They just want some discretion on the standard deliveries.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Again, you could try a pair, if you could find a female. It's not something we see too often but the 2? times on here that someone tried it (that I saw, in a larger tank btw), the males killed the females.

Yeah the way fish are kept at the store is only temporary, so you see a lot of things that you shouldn't emulate. We regularly see people say "the fish store is keeping them like that so why can't I?"

If there are sick fish in the tank, do not buy. Picking at the substrate is just foraging behavior so that's no big deal.

Aquabid.com is the place to go. Depending on where you live and where the seller is, you may have to wait for a warm stretch to get them shipped. I've never paid for overnight delivery and only once did I receive dead fish, out of about a dozen orders. Even though they say there's no guarantee without overnight, many of the sellers will work with you in the event of DOAs. They just want some discretion on the standard deliveries.
Ok, so I read that sometimes Schooling fish nip at other fish. Would a full-size Gourami be a) to big or b) eat the smaller fish? That looked like a cool alternative.
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Also. can I get a second group of livebearers like Platies instead of Danios?
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