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post #21 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 06:46 PM
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Looking good! Just be careful where you put that pump. The discus will enjoy little or no current in the tank :)

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post #22 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah I am trying to decide where to put it. I think it might be ok if I put it up in the top right corner. They rarely hang over there.

75 Gallon

7 Discus
6 Neon Tetras
4 Black Neon Tetras
4 Glass Catfish
1 Siamese Algae Eaters
2 Bumblebee Goby
1 Bristle Nose Pleco
1 Gold Nugget Pleco


Corydoras
3 Panda Corys
2 Salt and Pepper Longfin Corys
2 Albino Corys
2 Jullii Corys
3 Emerald Corys
3 Sterbai Corys

7 Gallon

1 Betta
5 Snails
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post #23 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 07:10 PM
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I just took note of the intended (?) fish for the 75g, there are some issues here, temperature wise. The neon tetra cannot last at the warm temp the discus require. I'm not sure if those corys are all in the 75 too, but if they are, some of them will burn out too. The black neons will be at the upper limit of their range, or actually just above that, and this is something that should be avoided. The dwarf gourami I would not put in with discus.

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I just took note of the intended (?) fish for the 75g, there are some issues here, temperature wise. The neon tetra cannot last at the warm temp the discus require. I'm not sure if those corys are all in the 75 too, but if they are, some of them will burn out too. The black neons will be at the upper limit of their range, or actually just above that, and this is something that should be avoided. The dwarf gourami I would not put in with discus.
Thanks for the advice Byron. I have been contemplating whether the Dwarf Gourami should stay or go as he is a little aggressive towards them but they seem to hold their own against him. My concern with trying to trade him in at a LFS is that he has a few holes in his fins. I am afraid they wont take him. It isn't disease as he has been like that since I bought him over 6 months ago.

75 Gallon

7 Discus
6 Neon Tetras
4 Black Neon Tetras
4 Glass Catfish
1 Siamese Algae Eaters
2 Bumblebee Goby
1 Bristle Nose Pleco
1 Gold Nugget Pleco


Corydoras
3 Panda Corys
2 Salt and Pepper Longfin Corys
2 Albino Corys
2 Jullii Corys
3 Emerald Corys
3 Sterbai Corys

7 Gallon

1 Betta
5 Snails
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post #25 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 10:12 PM
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I agree with Byron that neon's do better in colder water than discus like but i keep mine at a temp of 30 degrees along with my discus and there have been no problems at all so it is possible but i too plan on lowering my temp to 28-29 degrees to make my neon's feel more comfortable. all i wanted to say here is that it is possible to keep black neons at the temp discus like


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I agree with Byron that neon's do better in colder water than discus like but i keep mine at a temp of 30 degrees along with my discus and there have been no problems at all so it is possible but i too plan on lowering my temp to 28-29 degrees to make my neon's feel more comfortable. all i wanted to say here is that it is possible to keep black neons at the temp discus like
Possible is not the same as good for the fish. In your other thread on the 33g tank with discus, I have outlined the problems that fish have when we try to force them into what is for them not natural, and this is another example. A "community" aquarium must be thought out in advance and all the fish selected must be compatible in every sense of the word, and this involves water parameters (hardness, pH and temperature), environment (the physical space in size and how it is aquascaped), filter flow, light, and last individual behaviours and traits of the species. Nature has programmed these fish, we cannot change them.

The problem with keeping fish at the high end of their temperature range is that is makes them work harder, and that uses more energy which tends to make them less "strong." Think of it in terms of you having to continually walk uphill; it just takes more energy than walking on level ground. And if this were to continue without break it would wear you down much faster. This is what the fish are going through. As another example, you know how you feel on a very hot day in the summer; you lack "energy," because of the increased heat. Same thing here. It is just wearing down the fish faster.

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post #27 of 32 Old 02-26-2012, 09:58 PM Thread Starter
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also just added some Crypt Parva to the bottom right. Hopefully it will carpet out nicely.


75 Gallon

7 Discus
6 Neon Tetras
4 Black Neon Tetras
4 Glass Catfish
1 Siamese Algae Eaters
2 Bumblebee Goby
1 Bristle Nose Pleco
1 Gold Nugget Pleco


Corydoras
3 Panda Corys
2 Salt and Pepper Longfin Corys
2 Albino Corys
2 Jullii Corys
3 Emerald Corys
3 Sterbai Corys

7 Gallon

1 Betta
5 Snails
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post #28 of 32 Old 02-27-2012, 11:02 PM
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Hi Mikie.., Your tank is just awesome. i love it, here is mine.

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Hi Mikie.., Your tank is just awesome. i love it, here is mine.

Hey John! Thanks for the comments! You have a really great tank as well. What are you using as a ground cover? You have really good growth!

75 Gallon

7 Discus
6 Neon Tetras
4 Black Neon Tetras
4 Glass Catfish
1 Siamese Algae Eaters
2 Bumblebee Goby
1 Bristle Nose Pleco
1 Gold Nugget Pleco


Corydoras
3 Panda Corys
2 Salt and Pepper Longfin Corys
2 Albino Corys
2 Jullii Corys
3 Emerald Corys
3 Sterbai Corys

7 Gallon

1 Betta
5 Snails
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post #30 of 32 Old 02-28-2012, 10:09 AM
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Both of those tanks are nice, good work to you both.

And johnawares, welcome to Troipcal Fish Keeping forum. Glad to have you joining us.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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