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post #11 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 12:36 PM
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I do the same as Twistersmom and have for more than 15 years with never a problem except once when I forgot the water conditioner (more in a moment).

Aqueon also make one of these, and in my experience the faucet attachment is much better constructed; my Python faucet attachment broke three times (threads wore out and it wouldn't stay on the faucet--result, flooded laundry room).

I attach it to the faucet and turn on the cold water, then syphon water out of the tank (vacuuming parts of the gravel substrate) and drain out half the tank (I have 115g, 90g and 70g tanks). The I take a cup of water from the tank to the faucet, adjust the hot/cold to the same temp by hand, turn the valve, and the tank starts to fill. I squirt one squirt of the water conditioner in front of the hose in the tank, and leave it to fill. On my SE Asian tank I have the incoming water the same temp or slightly higher because of the swamp fish (Chocolate Gouramis, Pygmy sparkling gouramis) that need warmth. But on the Amazonian tanks I have the incoming water slightly cooler to stimulate the fish as it does when it rains in the tropics. The temp only varies by 2-3 degrees F max.

The only time I had a problem was once in 1998. I always sit and check the tank after the pwc, just to ensure filter is running (having shut it off with the heaters obviously) and the fish look OK. That one time I noticed most of the fish gasping at the surface with red extended gills; I instinctively knew I'd forgotten the conditioner. Squirted in several squirts, fish recovered after several minutes, except for a couple that were too far gone. The chlorine/chloramine burns the gills. Now I just sit the bottle of conditioner on the tank light before I start to drain it, and by force of habit I remember.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #12 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 12:39 PM
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maybe if they have a pickup or some sort of suv/minivan you can throw them a few extra bucks to help trasport it??

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post #13 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 12:41 PM
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Hello Ron.

My tank is on the second floor, so I have the advantage of using the Python to drain the tank into my front yard. (the neighbors probable think I am crazy) I like not throwing all that gunk down my drain though. In the spring/summer the tank water is great for plant growth.

Lately, before refilling, I have been adding enough Prime to treat the whole 210 gallons of water. I use to add only enough Prime to treat the 50 gallons of new added water. Either way, I have had no problems. I started getting nitrates in my tap water, so decided to use more Prime, in hopes of it detoxifying the nitrates.

My tiger barbs love playing in the new water coming from the Python. I have seen no signs of stress, from the chlorinated water. I don't think they would play in it, if it bothered them.

For temperature, I let the water run at the sink for a while, till it feels right to me. Then I open the valve to let the water flow through the Python. I do a hand check for temp. a few times while the tank is filling back up, to compare new water with tank water. I also check the thermometer before filling and a few times during the filling process.

I love the Python on larger tanks. All my smaller tanks, I still use the buckets.


Edit*** My Python came with my used 210 gal, but I believe it comes with all the fittings you need. Its also easy to find replacement parts. My dog made a toy out of the section that connects to the sink.

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I too use the exact same method with the Python and can say I have had no negative effects.
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post #15 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 01:09 PM
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Great info.. thanks so much I believe that will be my next purchase.....
sounds like you have it down pat ....
I have really learned alot from all of you all....and thats what its all about...
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post #16 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 02:17 PM
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I do what twistersmom does. I made my own about 10 yrs ago from a water bed filler thing and bought tubing from homwe depot and it fits right on the sink faucet. You adjust the water temp before you turn the valve to have it pump into the aquarium so the water temp is pretty much the same, you can be as obsesive about this as you need to be. It does come with various fittings. I put the treatment in the tank before I add the water from the faucet. It does good for cleaning the rocks too, it works by venturi valve, as the sink water runs it sucks the water out of the tank. You of course do this with cold water. After, you adjust the water temp at the faucet flip the valve and let the new water just go right in to the tank. Very easy. I have never had a problem with doing it this way.
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post #17 of 19 Old 10-25-2009, 02:42 PM
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What length ????

OK I have looked at both brands...
whats the length of the ones you all have?

another thing... it appears to me that the part that
goes into the tank is a short one.... do they make one
that has a longer end? most of my tanks are
deep.. 24 inch seems to me that it would be much better
to have a longer end.

whats the thoughts on this ?

Ron
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maybe if they have a pickup or some sort of suv/minivan you can throw them a few extra bucks to help trasport it??
Had a breakthrough. Went to my nan's for a sunday roast and realized that the back seats in her car fold totally flat. It will be VERY tight on the length side but it should fit.



On the water change front, I'm thinking that a long length of garden hose would work just as well as a python? I can syphon the water out the door into my garden from the tank and then just attach the hose to my tap for filling. Should be free with a bit of hunting around too. Considering I found all the lighting for the tank (big power compact fixtures, ballasts and even bulbs!) in a skip finding some hose pipe shouldn't be to taxing..
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OK I have looked at both brands...
whats the length of the ones you all have?

another thing... it appears to me that the part that
goes into the tank is a short one.... do they make one
that has a longer end? most of my tanks are
deep.. 24 inch seems to me that it would be much better
to have a longer end.

whats the thoughts on this ?

Ron
Python makes different lengths of gravel tubes all the way up to 6 foot long. Take a look at their website and look under accessories for the tubes. Here's the link No Spill Clean & Fill Python Productss

Willieturnip, be careful using a garden hose. I think some hoses have chemicals in them for mold resistance and would be unsafe for your fish.

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