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Old 10-28-2008, 10:22 PM   #11
 
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Lol well that was crushing. I mean I knew it would cost a crazy amount but I was hoping not that crazy If I had a job that paid better then I would spend that much. I still might I guess just not for this tank. Maybe a nano cube in the near future? Are those even worth my time?
take a look at codys tank build
off the top of my head i think its 10gallons with a 5 gallon sump.

you could prob. find a nice nano setup off craigslist or even build your own with a $500 budget. it most def. wont be as huge as a 100gal but it will still be a nice addition to keeping fish. you wont be able to house many fish, maybe a clown and goby/pistol shrimp pair or a pair of clowns.. but you could fill it with soft and LPS corals. even a 20 gal with 10 gal sump would be overly expensive.. i mean dont get me wrong, buying lights, powerheads,salt,test kits, and yada yada is expensive to start but once it gets going its not so bad. but if you do choose this route please invest hours of research and planning to prevent wasting time, money, and fish.

as for freshwater i always like a large planted tank with large schools of neon or cardinal tetras and cherry red shrimp.

let us know what route you choose
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:43 AM   #12
 
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Thanks onefish. I'm still going to buy my friends 100 gallon... Because he doesn't know what he is talking about and I think I could talk him down in price. Do you guys think 300 for the tank and stand is good? And then I'll pay him a bit more for equipment assuming it works. Like if he gives me his python, heaters, and aeration I'll throw in 50 bucks. But I don't want to pay him for lights and a filter that are useless to me. Lol when I asked about the lights he was like "well I bought them with plants in mind" but I've read the bulbs before and they were 15 watt. So I tried explaining to him the 2-3 watt per gallon rule but I got the old "well la de da fish lady".

Anyway, yeah I was thinking I would get the 100 gallon and then set up probably like a 30 plus gallon sw tank. I don't want to start tiny with sw, but I certainly can't afford to start big I always see great deals for 55 gallons and stuff on local add sites so I'll pick one of those up and then... How big of a sump would a 55 gallon need? At least 20? 30? Ahhh lol ok I'm doing research.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:35 AM   #13
 
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Well if your friend can't work a measuring tape then I'd worry about him. $300 for a used tank and stand seems reasonable to me. $50 for two heaters and an air pump does as well. Can you actually get a light fixture for a tank that size that's only 15W?

Bigger is better when it comes to sumps but its primarily for dilution and system stability. If a 30 is only a couple bucks more then get it.

One way to ease into saltwater is to start with a FOWLR tank, Fish Only With Live Rock. This lets you get into saltwater without the lighting requirements, trace element dosing and other issues that can add up to big bucks.

As the owner of a 55 gallon tank... stay away from them. Don't get me wrong, I love my tank, but the only way I'd get another 55 is if it was given to me free. Sure it's four feet long and eighteen high, but its only 13 inches deep and that makes any kind of aquascaping a nightmare. I couldn't imagine trying to put in live rock into something like that and trying to add fish. Building up good flow with minimal dead spots? Forget it. I'd kill for the extra 5" of width a 75 gallon has.

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Old 10-29-2008, 07:20 AM   #14
 
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Well if your friend can't work a measuring tape then I'd worry about him. $300 for a used tank and stand seems reasonable to me. $50 for two heaters and an air pump does as well. Can you actually get a light fixture for a tank that size that's only 15W?
Lol oh, I am worried about him. It fully wouldn't surprise me if he measured it wrong (He probably didn't even measure it but laid beside it and said "Yep that seems about 5 feet") I'm not sure it seemed weird to me too. But he has like two light fixtures so I'm assuming they were meant for a 50 or something but used together fits a tank that size? All I know is the bulbs definitely said 15 watts.

So... Lol well a 75 gallons lights are going to be costly too, so whats the best tank size I can do without being a 75 gallon plus and holding more then two clown fish. I would definitely get two clown fish if I were to go for something like a nano. I don't really mind if its only those two fish if I can do corals and stuff too... Lol thats really all you need in a saltwater tank IMO the anemones alone are worth it.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:42 AM   #15
 
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If you can't go bigger than a 55 then look for something deeper even if its a bit smaller. I really think the dimensions of a 55 would make life hard for a saltwater aquarium.
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:24 PM   #16
 
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A 40 breeder would be great for saltwater. Not very tall but pretty long and deep front to back. Not being tall is a good thing if you're considering corals, because you'll get better light penetration.

If you're considering cichlids for the big tank, the big American cichlids are really not difficult fish to keep. They tend to be very hardy and eat just about anything. They'll eat/destroy plants and dig in your substrate, so live plants aren't going to work. A sand bottom would be good. In terms of care, just keep up with the water quality. Feed them a good staple pellet food, and supplement it with frozen and live food. I set up a 10g guppy breeding tank to provide supplemental feeders to my Dempsey. Definitely not required, but I thought it would be a cool idea. Just avoid using rosy reds or goldfish as feeders.

If you do an African Rift Lake setup, it'll require a little more research because you'll have a bunch of fish and you'll want to avoid compatibility issues. Generally, it's best to choose one of the lakes (Malawi or Tanganyika) and stick with only fish from that lake. The Malawi fish tend to get bigger and more aggressive but have some amazing colors. The Tanganyika fish are more varied in body shapes and sizes. It's really a matter of preference. They're also hardy fish though, so should be just fine as long as water quality is kept high. The high pH and hardness levels aren't necessary for the survival of the Rift Lake fish, but you'll certainly see them thrive in conditions closer to that of their natural habitats.
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