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Old 07-10-2011, 07:22 PM   #21
 
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My LFS calls dwarf puffers "pea puffers" too... which are the same thing, sadly my LFS wasnt aware of that. Yeah, with puffers other tank mates are pretty much not a good idea. I have read otos are generally left alone, and some puffers ignore shrimp, and some eat them...its a coin toss. And of course, snails will be eaten.

They stay small, maxing out at around an inch. They seem rather boring most of the time in the tanks at the LFS, but last time I went it was just before closing, and it was almost feeding time, and they were super active and acting like puppies waiting for kibble...it was super cute! If you get dwarf puffers, I heard its best to put foam/sponge around the filter intake if using an HOB...so I am planning for that.

Gosh I just donno what I should do lol.

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I don't know about the testing but just put it in the tub and let water run in it after you scrub... for a good 15 minutes
Good Idea thanks, that's what I did. Looks good now


Im gonna stick with the 10 gal. He did not have anything other than the tank so I need a hood/light and heater. I 2 HOB filters, I think they are both for 10 gallons so Ill use that for now, but probably do an upgrade at some point, especially if I go with puffers.

Still liking the idea of having different species, especially snails or shrimp. I really wanna find these scarlet badis locally so I can see them in real life. Ill keep you guys updated on what I decide.
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:39 PM   #22
 
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Soft water fish are a better option; with the hardness you mention, the pH will naturally lower a bit anyway, so that works well. There are lots of colourful options here. The dwarf rasbora (Boraras genus), Ember Tetra, Scarlet Badis, etc. In a 10g, depending upon which fish, a group of 7, 9, or more, or groups of 7 of 2 or 3 species, etc. Lots of colour and some activity in a small space.

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For the dwarf rasbora do you mean something like Boraras maculatus or mosquito rasbora? If so could would a group of 7 of one of those species work with a group or 7, say ember tetra, with also 5 pygmy corys? Sand substrate, MTS or a type of shrimp if my gf will allow it.

What would you keep with the scarlet badis in a 10?
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:50 PM   #23
 
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Gosh I just donno what I should do lol.

Still liking the idea of having different species, especially snails or shrimp. I really wanna find these scarlet badis locally so I can see them in real life. Ill keep you guys updated on what I decide.
There are lots of people who have shrimp in the same tank as Puffers. I have ghost shrimp in with mine.
I will say this though, It has a lot to do with the personality of the puffers that you get if the shrimp will live or die. LoL Chances are good that they will make it if you have lots of hiding spots for the shrimp to go to. Another thing to try is have the shrimp in the tank first before you add the puffers. If you add the after the puffers more and likely the puffers won't accept them in the tank. LoL It is a gamble with shrimp and puffers but it can be done. I just thought I would throw that out there for you as another option.

P.s When I had sand substrate I also had MTS in the tank and puffers didn't get to them. Never really saw them except for the trails they left in the sand but they were there LoL

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Old 07-10-2011, 08:07 PM   #24
 
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For the dwarf rasbora do you mean something like Boraras maculatus or mosquito rasbora? If so could would a group of 7 of one of those species work with a group or 7, say ember tetra, with also 5 pygmy corys? Sand substrate, MTS or a type of shrimp if my gf will allow it.

What would you keep with the scarlet badis in a 10?
Yes, there are several species in the genus Boraras, though the Boraras brigittae is probably the most often seen in the hobby, and there is another, forgotten the name now, which is very, very similar in appearance. Not sure, but i mayhave referenced this in the profile.

In my 10g with sand substrate and loads of plants I have at present 4 Scarlet Badis, 11 Mosquito Rasbora, 4 Corydoras hastatus, 3 Farlowella vittata fry growing out, 1 shrimp, 4 Licorice Gourami, and 4 Poecilocharax weitzmani. It's kind of a catch all. I had 7 of the Scarlet Badis but 3 died fairly quickly a couple weeks back so I moved them into the 10g. Had a problem in the 29g, that wood fungus again, lost several fish. Wood went out side, I'll never buy Mopani wood again.

Ember Tetra are fine, group of 7. You could have 2-3 of any of these species. But I would get a small sponge filter; water flow from HOB is too much for these delicate critters. Fighting current means stress, and that means weakened immune systems.

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Old 07-10-2011, 10:13 PM   #25
 
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Yes, there are several species in the genus Boraras, though the Boraras brigittae is probably the most often seen in the hobby, and there is another, forgotten the name now, which is very, very similar in appearance. Not sure, but i mayhave referenced this in the profile.

In my 10g with sand substrate and loads of plants I have at present 4 Scarlet Badis, 11 Mosquito Rasbora, 4 Corydoras hastatus, 3 Farlowella vittata fry growing out, 1 shrimp, 4 Licorice Gourami, and 4 Poecilocharax weitzmani. It's kind of a catch all. I had 7 of the Scarlet Badis but 3 died fairly quickly a couple weeks back so I moved them into the 10g. Had a problem in the 29g, that wood fungus again, lost several fish. Wood went out side, I'll never buy Mopani wood again.

Ember Tetra are fine, group of 7. You could have 2-3 of any of these species. But I would get a small sponge filter; water flow from HOB is too much for these delicate critters. Fighting current means stress, and that means weakened immune systems.
Your 10g sand is awesome. What are those floating plants in your pic? I want to get the plants to my liking in this tank. I am fine with my 29 but it's not heavily planted. And my 5 gal is to hard to work with so I think the 10 will be perfect so I can get I can mess around with the plants easier.

I like licorice gourami's but have not seen them locally. That may be my problem with this tank, as I rarely see dwarf rasbora or dwarf corys locally. I will be focousing more on the plants right now. Fish not for a month at least so I have some time to decide. But Its either the 3 puffers or a mix of what you suggested. I like the mix better I think. In the future I would try a larger tank, maybe brackish and a figure 8 puffer.

I don't really under stand sponge filter at the moment. I will have to read up on them. I believe you need an air pump, stone and a filter so it should be pretty cheap. Only issue I have is that this will be on a desk in my living room( also where I work) so I don't want the pump to be loud. I guess this won't be an issue because I won't need a large pump for a 10 gallon.

Do you have a sponge/pump combo you like.? I guess I could also throw the sponge itself in one of my other tanks for a few weeks before I set up the new tank to seed it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:42 AM   #26
 
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Your 10g sand is awesome. What are those floating plants in your pic? I want to get the plants to my liking in this tank. I am fine with my 29 but it's not heavily planted. And my 5 gal is to hard to work with so I think the 10 will be perfect so I can get I can mess around with the plants easier.

I like licorice gourami's but have not seen them locally. That may be my problem with this tank, as I rarely see dwarf rasbora or dwarf corys locally. I will be focousing more on the plants right now. Fish not for a month at least so I have some time to decide. But Its either the 3 puffers or a mix of what you suggested. I like the mix better I think. In the future I would try a larger tank, maybe brackish and a figure 8 puffer.

I don't really under stand sponge filter at the moment. I will have to read up on them. I believe you need an air pump, stone and a filter so it should be pretty cheap. Only issue I have is that this will be on a desk in my living room( also where I work) so I don't want the pump to be loud. I guess this won't be an issue because I won't need a large pump for a 10 gallon.

Do you have a sponge/pump combo you like.? I guess I could also throw the sponge itself in one of my other tanks for a few weeks before I set up the new tank to seed it.
In that 10g the floating plant is Brazilian Pennywort. It is ideal in small tanks as a floater because you can trim it to keep it in check and it is small enough to still look good. Something like Water Sprite is not in such a small space as it gets larger than the tank.

I have a Hydro sponge connected to an air pump for that tank, and Elite dual sponge filters in the 20g aqnd 29g. "Seeding" a new sponge is fine, prob not necessary with plants, but won't hurt.

Licorice gourami are very difficult fish. They reportedly only eat live food, and these I got just last week. They are quite thin, the fellow even said they never seemed to eat flake food, so I have them in the 10g where I can more easily feed frozen bloodworms which usually gets such difficult fish eating. The Poecillocharax weitzmani in there will eat nothing else.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:31 PM   #27
 
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In that 10g the floating plant is Brazilian Pennywort. It is ideal in small tanks as a floater because you can trim it to keep it in check and it is small enough to still look good. Something like Water Sprite is not in such a small space as it gets larger than the tank.

I have a Hydro sponge connected to an air pump for that tank, and Elite dual sponge filters in the 20g aqnd 29g. "Seeding" a new sponge is fine, prob not necessary with plants, but won't hurt.

Licorice gourami are very difficult fish. They reportedly only eat live food, and these I got just last week. They are quite thin, the fellow even said they never seemed to eat flake food, so I have them in the 10g where I can more easily feed frozen bloodworms which usually gets such difficult fish eating. The Poecillocharax weitzmani in there will eat nothing else.

I see the pennywort in one pic. How bout the other floating plants with roots?

They have the dual sponges but do i need that for a 10 gallon. I think they had this:

Amazon.com: Elite Single Sponge Filter: Kitchen & Dining Amazon.com: Elite Single Sponge Filter: Kitchen & Dining

And I know they had this:

Amazon.com: Hagen A896 Elite Sponge Filter: Electronics Amazon.com: Hagen A896 Elite Sponge Filter: Electronics

What do you think. I was going to get one of these pumps. DId not know if I should get the 10 or 20 gallon:
Whisper Air Pump 10 (upto 10 Gal)#

What else do I need for the filter

Very cool with the gourami. I hope all goes well
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:04 AM   #28
 
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I see the pennywort in one pic. How bout the other floating plants with roots?

They have the dual sponges but do i need that for a 10 gallon. I think they had this:

Amazon.com: Elite Single Sponge Filter: Kitchen & Dining

And I know they had this:

Amazon.com: Hagen A896 Elite Sponge Filter: Electronics

What do you think. I was going to get one of these pumps. DId not know if I should get the 10 or 20 gallon:
Whisper Air Pump 10 (upto 10 Gal)#

What else do I need for the filter

Very cool with the gourami. I hope all goes well
I have the Elite dual in the two larger tanks, nice filters. A single Elite would be fine in a 10g.

I only have Pennywort floating in the 10g now, but if it is an older pic it might have been some runners from the pygmy chain sword. I think I also had some daughter plants of Echinodorus bleherae in that tnak, floating, just for more plants. My swords sent out several inflorescences last year and I had dozens of daughter plants.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:31 AM   #29
 
from one inflouresence I got 9 daughter plants... I am so surprised at that number...
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:06 PM   #30
 
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Thats some neat stuff. Ill understand plants one day lol

Thanks for everyones ideas. I started this tank yesterday and started it here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...ild-log-74917/

Im sure there will be more questions.....
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