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10 Gallon stock ideas
Old 07-07-2011, 05:09 PM   #11
 
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I was thinking Dario dario, the Scarlet Badis. A group of 7 in a 10g, make sure they are male and female, better interaction. Will spawn easily too.

Sand is fine with DP. And yes, they are very good at eating any snails. I have hundreds of Malaysian |Livebearing snails, and in the 10g with one DP they disappeared within a week. Only those deep in the substrate survived, so they kept reproducing a bit for the DP.
If they spawn, is it safe to say the babies will be eaten? Like I said I don't want new fish.

As for the puffer and sand, is it not best to have snails to turn the sand? So if the puffer eats them (plus I have soft water) is this bad? Would I need to manually turn the sand during water changes if I have no snails?

While on the subject of snails, what are the common snails found on plants usually called. I can post a pic if needed.

And no one said anything about the betta sorority, is that a bad idea in a 10?
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:44 PM   #12
 
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If they spawn, is it safe to say the babies will be eaten? Like I said I don't want new fish.

As for the puffer and sand, is it not best to have snails to turn the sand? So if the puffer eats them (plus I have soft water) is this bad? Would I need to manually turn the sand during water changes if I have no snails?

While on the subject of snails, what are the common snails found on plants usually called. I can post a pic if needed.

And no one said anything about the betta sorority, is that a bad idea in a 10?
Eggs usually get eaten especially if there are other fish in the aquarium. I'm not sure if mine have spawned, there are certainly no fry after several months.

Malaysian Livebearing snails are fine in very soft water, I have hundreds. A puffer will eat what it finds, but a few will likely survive in the substrate. Sand need not be deep in a puffer tank, 1-2 inches max for the plants. I don't touch the substrate in planted tanks.

Snails that arrive with plants will most usually be the pond snail, acute bladder snail or ramshorn. The shell on the first two is cylindrical and to me identical. The Ramshorn is distinctive, round like a ram's horn. I like and have the pond/bladder snails (still not sure which), the ramshorn might eat plants (Inga had this occur).

I believe a 10g is too small for Betta sorority.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:08 PM   #13
 
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Personally for a betta sorority to work properly, you need 5+ girls, and a 29g is the smallest size that would give them the space they need to survive and thrive. Just wanted to mention that.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:03 PM   #14
 
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Ok guys. Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the power went out in my entire apartment complex last night due to storms. I lost the power supply to my main computer, the computer I use for work. Looks like i will be spending my tank money on computer parts( unless my renters insurance covers it ). I only need a hood, light and heater so it will happen eventually. I believe I'm set on the puffers. They look so neat. I'll post a build log when I eventually start this tank.
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:36 PM   #15
 
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Sorry to hear about the power outage & computer problems!!! I've been there, so I know what a pain it is!!!

I too am about to get puffers for my established 15g...and I have researched the heck out of them, so if you have any questions along the way let me know. I hope to get my puffers this Wednesday.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:55 PM   #16
 
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Luckily I work with computer so I can fix the problem myself, just gotta buy the part.

Im not sure what I wanna do, just got back from the LFS and their dwarfs were labeled as pea puffers. They are super small now. My issue, is I like a full ecosystem, with snails and shrimp and different fish, and with the puffers I cant have that. But at the same time, I don't know if I want a different type of tetra and rasbora.


The puffers may be to small for me. I think the issue is, everyone says how interesting they are, but when I see them in stores they are too small and they dont do anything.


Im thinking about grabbing a 20g high since they are on sale at petco now. I could then buy the rest of the tank later, but that still does not give me alot of options.

Too bad figure 8 puffers are brackish, I just dont feel like dealing with that now. Also I believe my pH is to low from them. Information out there is very confusing.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:03 PM   #17
 
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If you have a sunny window, you could always set up a NPT-

I had my 5 running like that for quite a long time...
Just need a tank, heater, gravel, plants, and a window that gets light. (not direct sunlight, obviously.)

Plants will replace the filter, and sunlight will replace a lighting fixture. Just an idea.

There are many small tetra species that would work well... And if you wanted to add a little crushed dolomite, then you could easily rasie your PH for livebearers or Danio margaritatus

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Old 07-09-2011, 11:20 PM   #18
 
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My LFS calls dwarf puffers "pea puffers" too... which are the same thing, sadly my LFS wasnt aware of that. Yeah, with puffers other tank mates are pretty much not a good idea. I have read otos are generally left alone, and some puffers ignore shrimp, and some eat them...its a coin toss. And of course, snails will be eaten.

They stay small, maxing out at around an inch. They seem rather boring most of the time in the tanks at the LFS, but last time I went it was just before closing, and it was almost feeding time, and they were super active and acting like puppies waiting for kibble...it was super cute! If you get dwarf puffers, I heard its best to put foam/sponge around the filter intake if using an HOB...so I am planning for that.

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Old 07-10-2011, 11:45 AM   #19
 
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If you have a sunny window, you could always set up a NPT-

I had my 5 running like that for quite a long time...
Just need a tank, heater, gravel, plants, and a window that gets light. (not direct sunlight, obviously.)

Plants will replace the filter, and sunlight will replace a lighting fixture. Just an idea.

There are many small tetra species that would work well... And if you wanted to add a little crushed dolomite, then you could easily rasie your PH for livebearers or Danio margaritatus
This will not be near a window, but what is an NPT? Is it a natural planted tank? What does it consist of?

Im cleaning out the 10 I have now. It was a saltwater tank and there is buildup on the glass. its seems to be coming off pretty easy with a sponge and viniger. How to I test to make sure it is safe after I scrub it?
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:16 PM   #20
 
I don't know about the testing but just put it in the tub and let water run in it after you scrub... for a good 15 minutes
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