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Old 05-08-2012, 07:10 AM   #11
 
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Are those measurements in ppm or dH?
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:16 AM   #12
 
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It will help to have the answer to Olympia's last question, but I will assume for the moment the GH and KH are ppm, since the pH is slightly acidic.

Livebearers will not last in this water, and Endlers Livebearer [as someone mentioned, click the name for the profile with info] need mineral in their water. Fortunately there are simple ways to achieve this. Using a calcareous substrate is the best. Calcareous means the sand or gravel is made from rock having a high calcium/magnesium content. For a 10g tank with Endlers, I would select sand, CarribSea make one from crushed coral and aragonite that is good. However, I would not have any of the "dwarf" species of cory over this.

The enriched substrates like Flourite are in my view a waste of money. And substrate fish can have problems.

If you are intent on having fry, you should have 2 females to each male at minimum. So in a 10g maybe 2 or 3 males, and 6-7 females. But, you will have fry continually, and getting rid of them is not always easy. A store that says it will take them once, may not again unless there is a very ready market. And a couple hundred fry in a 10g will be disastrous in no time.

An authentic aquascape would be the sand, some chunks of bogwood (Malaysian Driftwood is good and readily available in many stores) and live plants, especially floating but some substrate-rooted plants too like Corkscrew Vallisneria which does so well in harder water.

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Old 05-08-2012, 11:59 AM   #13
 
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Gh- 30
Kh- 40
Ph- 6.5
I think this means I have soft water right? If so is there a way I can be something to harden the water my bro really has his heart set on endlers livebearers
If that is ppm (which is what I'm guessing) then you have extremely soft water. Normally this isn't really a bad thing as it opens up a whole host of SA soft-water fish including discus. However, since you are wanting livebearers this is bad thing. As Byron suggested you can use a calcareous substrate. I am currently doing this in my goldfish tank as my water is too soft for them. I'm using CaribSeas' Florida Crushed Coral mix (found in the saltwater section). It is sharp, so you won't be able to have any substrate fish over it. But it works wonders at raising the GH, KH, and pH.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:32 PM   #14
 
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Could you have a layer of playsand over top for cories and still get the benefits?
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:40 PM   #15
 
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Those measurements are in ppm sorry . I didn't really want the corys in the first place so the sand should be fine but could I put a finer grain sand over the top of it for aesthetics? I was looking to add some shrimp to the tank so does anyone know of any shrimp species from central america? I would only start with two females and 1 male so I have some time before the fry become a problem. there are several people in the neighborhood with community tanks so I can get of some that way. If any of you live near NYC and want some endlers livebearers I would be happy to send some your way too.

Byron- is this the sand you are talking about? Florida Crushed Coral for Aquariums
also what kind of fixture would you reccomend for a 10 gallon tank?
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:45 PM   #16
 
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Could you have a layer of playsand over top for cories and still get the benefits?
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To be honest, I don't know. I have my crushed coral in a bag in the filter. This is an option, too. However I have to be very careful at water change time. It took me a few weeks of testing, but I've developed a system that lets me still do the large water changes required for a goldfish tank and not tip the pH or GH scales too much. I think for a beginner (the OP's younger brother) it will be much easier to just have the crushed coral as a substrate. You won't have to worry about making a "system" as much.

EDIT: If you don't want cories, then putting the crushed coral on the bottom will be just fine. Shrimp are a great choice, too. That is the substrate that I use and the one Byron is talking about (he recommended it to me). Glad to know you will have a place to put the fry. It's a shame I don't live closer or I might take some. I've been wanting a tank of livebearers for some time. The fixture depends on what you want. I just have the standard 10 gal hood with a 6500k bulb (not the light that comes with the tank). This will produce low-med lighting. More powerful lights could be used, but once you start getting stronger lights, you'll be looking at adding CO2 (high-tec). I'm a low-tec kinda person.

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Old 05-08-2012, 02:45 PM   #17
 
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are there any floating plants that do well in hard water? I like amazon frogbit but I think that is out of the question

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It will help to have the answer to Olympia's last question, but I will assume for the moment the GH and KH are ppm, since the pH is slightly acidic.

Livebearers will not last in this water, and Endlers Livebearer [as someone mentioned, click the name for the profile with info] need mineral in their water. Fortunately there are simple ways to achieve this. Using a calcareous substrate is the best. Calcareous means the sand or gravel is made from rock having a high calcium/magnesium content. For a 10g tank with Endlers, I would select sand, CarribSea make one from crushed coral and aragonite that is good. However, I would not have any of the "dwarf" species of cory over this.

The enriched substrates like Flourite are in my view a waste of money. And substrate fish can have problems.

If you are intent on having fry, you should have 2 females to each male at minimum. So in a 10g maybe 2 or 3 males, and 6-7 females. But, you will have fry continually, and getting rid of them is not always easy. A store that says it will take them once, may not again unless there is a very ready market. And a couple hundred fry in a 10g will be disastrous in no time.

An authentic aquascape would be the sand, some chunks of bogwood (Malaysian Driftwood is good and readily available in many stores) and live plants, especially floating but some substrate-rooted plants too like Corkscrew Vallisneria which does so well in harder water.

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Old 05-08-2012, 04:47 PM   #18
 
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Most plants, especially these days are pretty adaptable. A hard water central America biotope is pretty plant free I think? I'm thinking it's the faster flowing waters. I'm no biotope expert though.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:00 PM   #19
 
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what about some of these guys?
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I don't want to include no plants lol. it would make the tank look pretty lifeless.
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Most plants, especially these days are pretty adaptable. A hard water central America biotope is pretty plant free I think? I'm thinking it's the faster flowing waters. I'm no biotope expert though.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:06 PM   #20
 
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Haven't heard of the first one. The Val was mentioned. They tend to be high light. The egeria is a good amazon native too. Are you willing to order plants online? If so you have a lot of options. If not I'd scour the fish stores, write down all the plants they carry and research them.
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