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Old 05-07-2012, 07:06 PM   #1
 
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10 gallon planted tank

Hey guys. So I'm not new to ether saltwater or freshwater. currently I have a 72 gallon reef tank with 2 ocellaris clownfish and 5 green chromis. awhile back my brother won a couple of goldfish at a carnival and after my scoldings for so thoughtlessly accepting the responsibility of fish I promised him that I would help him with his tank.He went out the next day and bought all the basic equipment for a tropical fish tank. The fish died so after. most likely from the inevitable ammonia spike and their shadowy origins. I attempted to help my brother set-up a tank after that but my dad took over. in the end my brother wound up with a terribly overstocked tank (3 hi-fin tetras, 3 bleeding heart tetras, 3 serpa tetras, 1 pleco) and with artificial plants. my dad has finally eased off and me and my brother can change the tank to his liking. He would like to start by removing all current fish from the tank and adding a trio of endlers livebearers. I have heard that they don't eat their young, is this true? We figured we would do a south american biotope. are they are south american plants that would do well in a tank this size? we are willing to get some hi-quality lights but I don't know where to start looking. Also are there any south american shrimp?
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:33 PM   #2
 
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Endlers do not eat their young, indeed. It can be a good thing, or a bad thing, ;).
What are your water parameters?
10 gallons is pretty small. A group of endlers with some pygmy corydoras (or one of the 2 dwarf corydoras species) would work well.
For plants, floaters are pretty vital to most amazon set ups. Water sprite, amazon frogbit, or salvinia are good starters. They will grow pretty fast so you may have to remove it quite often to allow some light to the bottom.
Some good plants include anarchis, Brazillian pennywort, cabomba. For the foreground some pygmy chain sword would be nice. These are found in our profiles at the top, with more care info. :)
IMO no amazon tank is complete without some nice driftwood. Malaysian driftwood from a pet shop is a good option. There's also manzanita, which will be easier to find in the states (I'm from Canada and can't get any :() It's more branchy, which can look like tree roots in a tank. You'll want smaller pieces so they don't take up too much water area for the fish. You'll want to boil it for a while. Unless you boil it repeatedly until the water stays clear, you'll get tannins in your water. This is part of the natural Amazon. It's tea coloured water. Whether you want it or not is just preference.
Sand is the best substrate (especially if you want corydoras). Just regular play sand from a hardware store will work.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:22 PM   #3
 
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I actually want the endlers to breed on their own so that my brother can watch them breed and grow and we can always sell the stock we don't need to a LFS. Honestly we don't have a test kit because the tetras have done just fine without it. Obviously as we upgrade the tank we will get a full test kit. I don't know if I want to add corys purely because I want to keep the bioload low so the plants can really flourish. I mean if the plants would still do well anyway I would add them cause they are so cute. We actually have a piece of arc-shaped driftwood in the tank so that is done. I know that they sell plant substrates that help to keep the plants growing well. can I just layer the sand on top of it? also what fixtures do you do on your tank?

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Endlers do not eat their young, indeed. It can be a good thing, or a bad thing, ;).
What are your water parameters?
10 gallons is pretty small. A group of endlers with some pygmy corydoras (or one of the 2 dwarf corydoras species) would work well.
For plants, floaters are pretty vital to most amazon set ups. Water sprite, amazon frogbit, or salvinia are good starters. They will grow pretty fast so you may have to remove it quite often to allow some light to the bottom.
Some good plants include anarchis, Brazillian pennywort, cabomba. For the foreground some pygmy chain sword would be nice. These are found in our profiles at the top, with more care info. :)
IMO no amazon tank is complete without some nice driftwood. Malaysian driftwood from a pet shop is a good option. There's also manzanita, which will be easier to find in the states (I'm from Canada and can't get any :() It's more branchy, which can look like tree roots in a tank. You'll want smaller pieces so they don't take up too much water area for the fish. You'll want to boil it for a while. Unless you boil it repeatedly until the water stays clear, you'll get tannins in your water. This is part of the natural Amazon. It's tea coloured water. Whether you want it or not is just preference.
Sand is the best substrate (especially if you want corydoras). Just regular play sand from a hardware store will work.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:33 PM   #4
 
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I have pretty low tech set ups. I'm guessing a lot of my light is from the sun as well. I can't help you with choosing a bulb.
What sort of plant substrate are you looking at? Some aren't all that great really.
I have playsand only.. I supplement with Fluorish tablets for my root feeding plants.
Fish are actually natural fertilizers for plants. They produce the ammonia which the plants use up as a food source. So a lot of plants works well with a lot of fish. :D
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:05 PM   #5
 
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I was looking at sachem flourite. I was going to get the flourish excel chemical in place of a yeast based co2 system... Would that be alright? So how many Corys would you reccomend for a tank since they area social fish?

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I have pretty low tech set ups. I'm guessing a lot of my light is from the sun as well. I can't help you with choosing a bulb.
What sort of plant substrate are you looking at? Some aren't all that great really.
I have playsand only.. I supplement with Fluorish tablets for my root feeding plants.
Fish are actually natural fertilizers for plants. They produce the ammonia which the plants use up as a food source. So a lot of plants works well with a lot of fish. :D
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:26 PM   #6
 
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I've heard fluorite isn't a good substrate for the price you pay.
I'd just go with playsand and fertilizers.
You need a balance of light, CO2 and fertilizers. Excess of any of these leads to algae blooms. Of course a perfect balance is near impossible and you will most likely have some algae.Unless you build a CO2 set up there's no need for heavy lighting or lots of ferts. You can still fertilize, just not too much. Fertilizers don't provide CO2. For lighting, you need around 6500-7000 Kelvin (much less than a saltwater reef).
I would probably do 6-7 of the small species, they need larger groups to be happy.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:35 PM   #7
 
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Welcome to the forum! Any time you see a fish name highlighted like this goldfish, you can click on it to see our profile for the fish. If you are looking at a planted tank, I suggest you read the articles Byron wrote about keeping a planted tank (he's the pro around here). You'll find them at the top of the Freshwater Plants subforum. They will spell out the answers to a lot of your planted tank questions such as ferts, substrate, and lights.

About the livebearer biotope: while Endlers Livebearer are from South America, they aren't part of anl amazon biotope (soft water). They aren't even found in the Amazon River drainage. They come from northern Venezuela (most livebearers are Central American). Like most livebearers they are hard water fish. Plants will do just fine in this especially vallisneria. Some cories and plecos can live in this hard water, but you would have to research which ones specifically.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:41 PM   #8
 
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Yea, pygmies are pretty good in medium hard water, which is why I brought them up. The other dwarfs are slightly softer. Not sure about anything else. :D
I always figured live bearers were fine in soft water, but heck what do I know about live bearers? Besides that endlers are cool little dudes.
I say get your water tested for pH and hardness. Most pet shops do it for free. Then we can figure out the best plan of action.
And trust me, don't be upset if you have soft water, it gives you like 5000 more options fish wise. Just not the best for livebearers.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:21 AM   #9
 
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Well I can't afford a big expensive compressed co2 system so is there another method of adding co2 to the system. I am assuming co2 coming from the bioload will not be enough. So I will have to check my water to see what it looks like. I have some dip sticks for my SW tank that may work for FW. Maybe if my water is hard it would be an awesome opportunity for a central american biotope. I don't know too much about the species from that region but I'm sure you guys would be willing to educate me a bit.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:37 AM   #10
 
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Gh- 30
Kh- 40
Ph- 6.5
I think this means I have soft water right? If so is there a way I can be something to harden the water my bro really has his heart set on endlers livebearers
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