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Old 08-01-2011, 10:42 AM   #41
 
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There seem to be less spots on the two infected fish, so that's good news. It will be one week today that I started treatment. However, I did wake up to a dead tetra today, one who had no ich spots. His fins were completely missing. It looked like the others may have attacked him. I have no other explanation since they were all alive last night.

I will do a water change in a minimum of 3 days from now. Then go back to my normal schedule. I will not add new fish until I get back from vacation at the end of the month, but I would like to add the MTS before I go away so the person house sitting does not have to deal with the container everyday.

Every now and then, maybe 2-3 times a day, an air bubble pops up from the sand. Should I be moving the sand around by hand every now and then before I add my MTS?
I see bubbles from gravel and sand, it may well be trapped air. Often occurs after a water change interestingly, I can only assume the change in water pressure may have dislodged some of the substrate, freeing the trapped air pockets. Wouldn't worry. If this is a planted tank, I would never touch the substrate.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:28 AM   #42
 
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Good news and maybe bad news. Ich looks cleared up, today is day 10 so Ill do my first WC today or tomorrow.

Bad news is, I think i have one overly aggressive tetra. Sometimes when I look over there is alot of chasing. This normally wouldn't concern me, although I lost a tetra a few days ago overnight, and his fins were ripped apart. Could this be something else?
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:28 PM   #43
 
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Good news and maybe bad news. Ich looks cleared up, today is day 10 so Ill do my first WC today or tomorrow.

Bad news is, I think i have one overly aggressive tetra. Sometimes when I look over there is alot of chasing. This normally wouldn't concern me, although I lost a tetra a few days ago overnight, and his fins were ripped apart. Could this be something else?
Which species, how many, and what is the tank size?
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:31 PM   #44
 
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It is the 7 ember tetra from this tank. 10 gallon. 8 days into their ich treatment. The one who died to not have any ich spots. No other fish in the tank.
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It is the 7 ember tetra from this tank. 10 gallon. 8 days into their ich treatment. The one who died to not have any ich spots. No other fish in the tank.
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Don't worry. Torn fins are common with ich, so that is probably the explanation. And this species, Hyphessobrycon amandae, is unlikely to be aggressive; the chasing is most likely normal, mine do it a lot.
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:49 PM   #46
 
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The one with torn fins died within a 5 hr time period, and he did not show any spots. He whole back fin was compleatly missing. Thats why I was worried

The rest have recovered from ich and are active again, but they chase alot
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:46 AM   #47
 
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So I have decided on sparkling gourami (if and when I can find them) How many for a 10 gallon. Stock would look like this if possible:

7 Ember Tetra
? Sparkling Gourami
7 Dwarf Rasbora Species or Scarlet Badis
7 Dwarf Cory Species
MTS
Maybe Red Cherry Shrimp

Good or Bad?
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:50 AM   #48
 
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Would Celestial Pearl Danios work in this tank?
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:26 PM   #49
 
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No mention is made in this thread of water parameters. Celestial Pearl Danio need basic medium hard water, they will not do well in soft acidic water. Ember Tetra are better in soft acidic water. I personally would not combine such opposites.

I must caution on the Sparkling Gourami, believe it or not. I have had these fish several times over the years, and never before noticed problems. But my current group of five has given me no end of trouble with their aggressive behaviour to all other fish in the tank. I've had to move them into the 90g. I had in the 5 2 males and I think 3 females, as it turned out (no way to tell until they interact, from what I can see). This species will readily spawn in good conditions, such as my soft acidic water. And the males--like all gourami males--defend the nest vigorously. All the other fish in the tank were forced into hiding at the bottom under wood and plants. I have seldom seen such ferocity and from so tiny a fish.

Previously, I had this species in a 70g well planted, and they spawned continually, several fry survived to spawn themselves. I guess the large area and thick plants kept things relatively calm, as I never noticed this then. But in the 33g it was terror. Now they're in the 90g with some much larger fish, and I'm hoping the other fish will readily devour the eggs and that will put a stop to the defending of the nest. Aside from spawning, the gourami are fine. In your small space of a 10g, there would be no escape from these guys, so I wouldn't risk it; I had Dwarf Rasbora, about the same size and colour as your Embers, in with them and they were hounded and nipped. On their own, with perhaps some substrate fish (they didn't seem as interested in my loaches, more the upper fish, though they did charge and nip at the pygmy corys when they surfaced for air) they will be OK.

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Old 08-07-2011, 05:30 PM   #50
 
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OK that works, for both the danio and the gourami (did not have alot of time to look into the gourami, my pH is 7 out of the tap but lowers with wood, etc)

Anyway, is there anything you can think of as a sort of "center piece" that would work with the stock above?

Oh and my hardness, not sure the exact numbers, but it is soft to moderately hard, we have stated in another thread.
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