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post #21 of 82 Old 07-24-2011, 11:17 PM
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I would not think that much waste would come from the fish in a weeks time nor the snails. Which makes me think the wood again. Did you notice this mess in your other tank?
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post #22 of 82 Old 07-25-2011, 01:07 PM
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I doubt that is fish waste too. Perhaps from the wood, or miniscule plant matter?

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post #23 of 82 Old 07-25-2011, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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It must be wood/ plant matter.

anyway, I'm assuming 2 of them have ich, although it is so hard to tell. Two have some white specs on them but they all seem very active and they are not lethargic. They don't scratch or anything although they sometimes swim very close to the sand sometimes. The one sits under a leaf sometimes. I cant get a good pic. Any suggestions?
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It must be wood/ plant matter.

anyway, I'm assuming 2 of them have ich, although it is so hard to tell. Two have some white specs on them but they all seem very active and they are not lethargic. They don't scratch or anything although they sometimes swim very close to the sand sometimes. The one sits under a leaf sometimes. I cant get a good pic. Any suggestions?
Any chance of a "clear" pic? If there are whitish spots easily visible, probably ich; Velvet has very small spots and tends to cover the fish. I sometimes do nothing if the spots are ich and very few (1 or maybe 2) and only one or two fish, other than normal water changes with a good conditioner. But if it is more advanced, or if it is Velvet, raise the temp to 85F and treat once with Coppersafe at the dose on the label (1 teaspoon per 4 gallons, that is actual gallons in the tank so consider substrate displacing some water). Do this right after a water change of 50%, since future water changes will dilute the Coppersafe. Raise the temp slowly by turning up the heater over a day or two. Leave it for a week, then lower the temp by turning the heater back down. I usually do the next water change after 10 days rather than the week, and I do not add more Coppersafe.

If you have plants, do not use Flourish Comp or any other fert as this plus the Coppersafe will damage many species. Too much copper I suspect.

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This is the best I can do, I assume if I use coppersafe I should not add MTS for a while

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Yes, that's ich, not Velvet (thank goodness, Velvet is nasty). Earlier advice holds. If this is on two fish, I would up the temp and dose once with Coppersafe. B.

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post #27 of 82 Old 07-25-2011, 08:08 PM Thread Starter
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I did a WC yesterday so Im not going to do one again because I dont want to start a mini cycle since its a new tank. Just got back from the store (just in time) with the coppersafe. Thanks!
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post #28 of 82 Old 07-27-2011, 07:36 AM Thread Starter
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So far so good I guess. I think that everyone is acting a little better.

My MTS should be here today. I wanted them for this tank, although they will mostly be babies, I guess I can't add them because of the copper safe, right? When will be safe to add them, since the medicine lasts for a month? Is there something else Incan keep them in for now? I don't want to put all of them in the 30 now because of the loaches, and i don't wanna move decor trying to get them later. But my 5 gallon has alot of pond snails, so will there be an issue if I put the MTS there?
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You'd want to avoid putting the MTS in there right now with the copper. They are tough snails, but copper is baaad for inverts.

Just take the package when you get it, find a clean bowl or container of some type (I kept them in an old wonton-soup quart container for almost week before sending to you!). Put the snails in the container, add some dechlorinated water, and you should be ok for a while. Don't fill more than 1/2 to 3/4 full. I'd recommend doing a 100% water change every day in the temporary snail house, just pour off the water and replace with dechlorinated water. Feed an algae disk or two soon. They haven't been fed in a while! The Wardley (spelling ?) algae disks hold together pretty well in water. I bought mine at Petco.

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post #30 of 82 Old 07-27-2011, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
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That sounds great! How bout a lid?? Can I have one with some holes poked in it? I have cats so a lid would be good just incase. I cant put them in my stand because they open te door. Maybe I'll leave it in the bathroom for now, and take them out when we shower because it gets hot.
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