not all cheap brands are bad

daisycutter

for anyones interested in this theres a company called boyu that sell there stuff in some stores http://www.boyuaquarium.com/ i use alot of there stuff and im yet to find a fault with any of it especilly pumps i wouldnt put them above the main brands but for what they cost you get a good deal

Mr.Todd

Where all have you seen their products for sale? Any online shops?

daisycutter

dont know if they sell online my nearest GOOD aqatic center stocks a wide range of there stuff i know that dosent help you on the other side of the atlantic i just saying if you come across there stuff dont overlook it

Rue

I'm pretty sure our Petsmart carries some items of that brand...I'll have to check next time I'm in getting supplies...

...er, which will likely be tomorrow...