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post #11 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 01:43 PM Thread Starter
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Just one more reason to be glad we live were we live.
yup and have good prices , dealer that tell you what to do for the fish
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post #12 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 01:54 PM
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Well I don't know about the dealers always telling you what you need for the fish. That depends on the dealer some are good some are like there and just want to sell you the fish. ; ) But the prices are better than there.

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post #13 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 02:11 PM
not to be crude but they treat women with sub standards too.so if they treat fish that way im rather not suprised

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post #14 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 02:16 PM
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Good point Kitten.

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post #15 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 02:24 PM
no offense Kwtblack

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #16 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 02:47 PM
Kitten, that goes for the entire region... I think the whole mistreatment of women is cultural and mistreatment of fish is greed, im not so sure they can be put together like that. I see plenty o stores in the US that sell fish in small tanks, ie, the hundred of petco and petsmart stores that try to house cichflids in tanks the same size as those that house neon tetras...

also as for prices, basic economics dictates that price is directly correlated with demand and supply. In general, saltwater fish are more expensive that freshwater because they have a lower supply. It is possible that in your area kwtblack, that freshwater fish are in higher demand. When that happens, its not unusual for the store to hike up prices. The only way to counter this is increase supply which would mean more stores in the area that will sell or cheaper.

Even in the US, rarer beautiful fish like discus will sell for 70-100 dollars but a neon tetra will sell for a dollar. Discus are not very high in supply and only demanded by the most experienced and/or ambitious fishkeepers so the prices stay high. Neon tetras are bred by the thousands and sold by the thousands (actually its very likely that neons are bred and sold in the millions..) so its only a buck each.

I'm not defending their mistreatment of fish and ridiculous prices. I just want to point out that the economics of greed is what facilitates trade and that fairness is relative to the area in which the trade occurs.
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post #17 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 02:53 PM
sad but true.. and no i do hope the fish gets more expensive so they treat them better.

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #18 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 04:00 PM
i feel like a tool for posting this, BUT, in this event i think we would want lower prices to be lower to promote increase turnover so the fish dont stay in store conditions for as long. Higher price usually means less purchases for a higher margin so cheaper fish = getting out of small uncomfortable tanks faster. As long as the buying price for the retailer is low, theres no reason for the retailer to increase care for his fish, its the same amount of loss either way if they die, but if it sells his margins are very good.

Trying to convince the owner to lower his prices and increase his turnover is probably the best bet for the fish but the long term solution is to just boycott until he goes out of business and a better store opens in its place.
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post #19 of 24 Old 10-20-2010, 04:17 PM
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What Sincrisis says is true but I am thinking that in third world countrys that have little or no access to internet the fish are probably just going from one bad place to another. At least here we can hope that those that are ill informed by bad store workers will get on the net and do there research and get the correct info.

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post #20 of 24 Old 11-30-2010, 11:08 AM
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I'll be honest Ive been to thirdworld countries before to visit and whatnot. I have indeed ventured into many of the fish stores in these areas. People who buy these fish usually dont have the knowledge or money/equipment to properly take care of these fish. So having a higher turnover in fish and selling more wouldnt benefit these fish any. Many of these fish also are wild caught in regions such as these. So having ahigher turnover in fish would be more determent to the fish itself since people would just be catching them more often and taking them away from their natural habitat.
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