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Old 08-07-2007, 10:50 PM   #21
 
so you think a bgk liek 3-5 clown loaches and a bichir (senegalus) will be ok as long as there alot of hiding places for all ?
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:54 PM   #22
 
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As far as i know yes but i would also get the opinions from other membersif the clown needs are met and they are large enough and they do go slow and can live for 40 years. Still my word is not absolute it would be wise to get a second opinion.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:04 PM   #23
 
oh im waiting on more opinions but it would be nice if i could get them all but who knows well see
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:32 PM   #24
 
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Well fed and given enough space, Clown loaches can get like a foot long. If I were doing it, and I wanted Clown Loaches, I'd get 7 clown loaches and that's it. That said, With Clowns in the mix, I'd go with the bichir. They'd be active enough to make a BGK stressed, I think.

/ I think when I get a Bichir, I'm going to name it John. It will be nice to have a John Bichir under water.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:03 AM   #25
 
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Well I will play the opposer here just for the sake of it.

I have 2 Skunk botia loaches which are notoriously hostile, territorial and don;t get along with other fish. I have kept them with loaches, swordtails, guppies, neon tetras and glo lite tetras and have never lost a single fish to them. I also feed them small snails and have had them in a tank with large snails and they did not kill any of the larger ones.

In other words wether it is fish or dogs, sometimes you can count on them acting the way expect sometimes you can't.

After doing more research on them all I can find that would support my choice of the Bichir is the fact they are less prone to stress from other fish where knifes really like to be able to hide and be left alone unless they want to come out.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:58 AM   #26
 
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Well I will play the opposer here just for the sake of it.

I have 2 Skunk botia loaches which are notoriously hostile, territorial and don;t get along with other fish. I have kept them with loaches, swordtails, guppies, neon tetras and glo lite tetras and have never lost a single fish to them. I also feed them small snails and have had them in a tank with large snails and they did not kill any of the larger ones.

In other words wether it is fish or dogs, sometimes you can count on them acting the way expect sometimes you can't.

After doing more research on them all I can find that would support my choice of the Bichir is the fact they are less prone to stress from other fish where knifes really like to be able to hide and be left alone unless they want to come out.
I agree..... Bichirs don't hide much at all. Oh, and did I mention that I had 5 Skunks? lol. The more the merrier, lol. They are like tiger barbs, the more you have, the less likely they are to pick on other fish, and pretty much chase each other around, rather than chasing other fish.

Knives just hide too much. They may look cool, but when do you really ever get to watch them, unless you have nowhere for it to hide and increase it's stress levels.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:29 PM   #27
 
so technically it would work then? or no lol
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:44 PM   #28
 
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Yes, there is a chance that you could keep a bichir, a knife, and clown loaches in the same tank but I think that most here would agree that there will most likley be problems down the road or immediately and some very unhappy fish and that you will likely see subsequent disease or death of one or many of them.

I do believe that in the right circumstances it could work but not knowing anything about them and not keeping anything but loaches I would give my chances of success at about 1:500. If you have more experience with all of them and know what to expect then maybe the chances would be 1:100 of having no problems and 50:50 that the knife doesn't live long.
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Old 08-08-2007, 05:02 PM   #29
 
ic how about 2 bichirs and some loaches ? lol
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Old 08-08-2007, 05:38 PM   #30
 
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ic how about 2 bichirs and some loaches ? lol
Clown loaches, right? They can work as long as they are too big for the bichir's mouth.
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