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compadability with new ropefish
Old 10-04-2010, 02:36 PM   #1
 
compadability with new ropefish

I just got a new ropefish the other day from my LFS and 3 hillside loaches. They are all in my qaurantine tank and seem to be happy and getting along. I want to add my ropefish to my 33 gallon tank that currently has a red-tail shark, a clown loach, a hillside loach, 2 clown plecos(will be moved back to quarantine tank) and a medium sized pleco. I am worried about the ropefish going after the clown loach, which is only 3 or 4 inches right now and growing extremely slow, and eating him as a snack. Or if it would be better to move the ropefish to my 33 gallon cichlid tank (would move 2 jack dempsy to 55 gallon) which has a bunch of small to medium mostly african cichlids. I am worried that the fish in here will be too aggressive for the ropefish. If anyone could give me any thoughts on this or any pointers on keeping ropefish would be very much appreciated.
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #2
 
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rope fish are too delicate for chilids esp JD as they are territorial.you should have thought about it before buying it.plus ropefish likes company.so you'll need more then one fish
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:16 PM   #3
 
in my research beforehand there was a couple of people who have been keeping their ropefish with cichlids including JDs. I would be putting the JDs back in my 55 gallon like I mentioned above if I did move my ropefish in with my small and medium cichlids. Besides that is my second choice. I want to move the ropefish into my growup tank which does not have any cichlids at the moment and only has small cichlids in it when it does. My concern is I have a small clown loach which is growing extremely slowly that I do not want eaten. I have invested money in several clown loaches that have not made it throug the quarantine process because they get covered in ich the first couple of days and it all goes downhill from there. The one I have left servived through the ich and has been happy schooling with the redtail for the last year. I do not want to lose him now as a snack to the ropefish.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:59 PM   #4
 
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can iether re home the loach or add a lot of hiding places for the loach but that won guarantee it wont get eaten
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Old 10-05-2010, 04:43 AM   #5
 
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Ropefish will do poorly with fishes that are much quicker at grabbing foods such as cichlids and could also suffer damage from the cichlids depending on particular cichlids.
New world cichlids such as Jack Dempsey should not be kept with African cichlids due to often different water chemistry requirements and diets. Foods rich in animal proteins that Dempsey's enjoy along with other new world cichlids ,often create digestive problems for Africans if eaten in excess.
Dempsey and convict (1) could be housed together but a breeding pair of convicts could easily cause significant damage to Cichlids twice their size.
Sharks and clown loaches need lots of swimming room and sharks are noted for being aggressive as they mature and could inflict damage if not enough space for territory is present or hiding areas for the loach who would prolly stay hidden if possible.
In my view,and judging from the fishes that were at one time listed under your aquariums (ie) Red devils,Green terrors, Plecos,Sharks, Piranah,etc You would be well served by locating larger tanks if you wish to keep the fishes healthy in the long term. This would also solve some of your current housing problems.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:47 PM   #6
 
the only housing problem I have right now is will my loach be eaten by my ropefish. I currently do not have the space or money to upgrade to bigger tanks at the moment. My fish get along pretty well considering I deal with them quite a bit that I have successfully trained my green terror to brake up any fights in the tank and to protect any smaller fish in the tank from the more aggressive fish and my redtails and loach school together all day and curl up together at night to sleep. I used to have both redtails in the same tank and they would sleep beside one another with the loach in the middle. And I had to move my convicts to a separate tank when they had their first batch of babies so I know a breeding pair will attack much larger fish and take over as much of the tank as possible. I can see I came to the wrong place to ask my questions since you seem to be telling me what I ca and can't do with my fish. I have quite a bit of time to watch them to see which cichlids I have that get along together and it just so happens that my dempsys are doing much better and seem much happier with the african cichlids than the south american ones.
Now my clown loach is about 3-4 inches and the ropefish is about 8 inches. Right now I would just like some imput from someone who has successfully kept ropefish or are currently keeping ropefish on whether or not there is a chance of my clown loach getting eaten. There are also a ton of rock hiding spaces in the tank.
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:34 PM   #7
 
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the only housing problem I have right now is will my loach be eaten by my ropefish. I currently do not have the space or money to upgrade to bigger tanks at the moment. My fish get along pretty well considering I deal with them quite a bit that I have successfully trained my green terror to brake up any fights in the tank and to protect any smaller fish in the tank from the more aggressive fish and my redtails and loach school together all day and curl up together at night to sleep. I used to have both redtails in the same tank and they would sleep beside one another with the loach in the middle. And I had to move my convicts to a separate tank when they had their first batch of babies so I know a breeding pair will attack much larger fish and take over as much of the tank as possible. I can see I came to the wrong place to ask my questions since you seem to be telling me what I ca and can't do with my fish. I have quite a bit of time to watch them to see which cichlids I have that get along together and it just so happens that my dempsys are doing much better and seem much happier with the african cichlids than the south american ones.
Now my clown loach is about 3-4 inches and the ropefish is about 8 inches. Right now I would just like some imput from someone who has successfully kept ropefish or are currently keeping ropefish on whether or not there is a chance of my clown loach getting eaten. There are also a ton of rock hiding spaces in the tank.

Hey,

I haven't fully read the posts in relation to your question just sorta glanced over, however I've read your responses and sorta catch the drift lol...

I've recently purchased a rope fish* about 2 months ago*. He's housed in my 55 gallon atm until he gets a little larger.

His current tank-mates aren't massive...housed with some baby angel fish(4), which, I'm sure if he'd want to he could eat. He's also housed with a smaller breed of pleco(I honestly can't figure out the specific speices of pleco..however he isn't a generic plec) and a BGK. There are several khulio loach's in there, and to me, that would seem to anyone an awsome treat..and he hasn't bothered them either..Which I think would be more susceptable to getting"eating" by him than anything really haha...

There's also a few other small fish species I have in there, as they're often sold to small lat the pet store for me to shove into one of my tanks with 1-2 year old fish or older in some cases...

Basically what I'm saying is, he hasn't bothered to touch or eat any of them..
I feed him on a regular basis, he knows when dinner time is..

I just provide a great deal of hiding places and try and lay my tanks out to allow different" zones" so fish can claim whichever area they want..and so far I haven't had a scrap yet...or a missing counter-part of a different species lol

So basically I think if you can provide a confortable environment with hiding places ect suitable for a rope fish, and your other fish with optimal water conditions and feed on a regular basis I think everything should be fine.

I wouldn't be to concerned..I mean, you mentioned you watch your fish closely enough that you'll most likely spot a problem before or shortly after it arises..and you can sort it out quickly I'm sure.
Like anything though..just because a specific behaviour or memo on a fish is set ..it is just a general rule..all fish, given different environments/water conditions ect will act different so..I say just try it haha

Hope all goes well.

Keep us posted:)

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Old 10-06-2010, 03:03 AM   #8
 
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the only housing problem I have right now is will my loach be eaten by my ropefish. I currently do not have the space or money to upgrade to bigger tanks at the moment. My fish get along pretty well considering I deal with them quite a bit that I have successfully trained my green terror to brake up any fights in the tank and to protect any smaller fish in the tank from the more aggressive fish and my redtails and loach school together all day and curl up together at night to sleep. I used to have both redtails in the same tank and they would sleep beside one another with the loach in the middle. And I had to move my convicts to a separate tank when they had their first batch of babies so I know a breeding pair will attack much larger fish and take over as much of the tank as possible. I can see I came to the wrong place to ask my questions since you seem to be telling me what I ca and can't do with my fish. I have quite a bit of time to watch them to see which cichlids I have that get along together and it just so happens that my dempsys are doing much better and seem much happier with the african cichlids than the south american ones.
Now my clown loach is about 3-4 inches and the ropefish is about 8 inches. Right now I would just like some imput from someone who has successfully kept ropefish or are currently keeping ropefish on whether or not there is a chance of my clown loach getting eaten. There are also a ton of rock hiding spaces in the tank.
At present size of both the Clown loach and the ropefish, the Clown loach will probably not become snack. clown loaches have sharp spine just below their eyes and this would cause the ropefish considerable dicomfort should it decide to have a go at the lonely loach.
Some believe that clown loaches are capable of excreting substance that other fish find intolerable but I am not sure about this. (speculation).
My comments were ,and are,,, always aimed at the LONGTERM welfare of fishes. You are entitled to place what ever fish you like with what ever other fishes in aquarium(s) of your choice.
Many folks will/do report that they keep this fish or that fish in a bowl,or this species with that species without incident. These folks in my view are fish collectors,they simply aquire fishes to be able to say they have them. There is little research done before the fish are purchased , and they seldom reach Adulthood due to largely ignorance.
Others are fish keepers ,or true hobbyists. They research the fishes that interest them and take pains to provide an enviornment suitable for the LONGTERM health of the fishes. They provide proper water chemistry,proper foods,they place the fishes in proper sized tanks,with suitable tank mates.
When I began keeping fishes nearly forty years ago, I was a fish collector rather than a fish keeper.
I murdered untold numbers of fish out of ignorance, and my desire to collect fishes that appealed to me with little to no regard for the fishes chances of longterm survival.
Nowday's I focus more on understanding the needs of the fishes and try to prevent others from making same mistakes that I have made in the past.
Perhaps I am not all warm and fuzzy with suggestions or advice , but that is not my aim.
Keeping fish can be as easy or as hard as one wishes to make it, but with a little research,,, fishes will always fair better in the long run and one does not need to wonder so much about whether this fish or that fish ,will get along.
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