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post #1 of 12 Old 01-15-2011, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
African Butterfly Fish?

Hi I was wondering if I could keep a African Butterfly Fish in my 38 gallon. I only want one ant the params are pH around 6, Ammonia 0, nitrate 0, ... It's good water but would the fish be okay in my type of water. The Gh is around 4 . The tank mates are 12 neons, they rarely leave the middle column area of the tank and I guess if the african fish decides to eat some It's okay. There are some bottom feeders and 2 rams. would this work or not.

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2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
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post #2 of 12 Old 02-05-2011, 01:56 AM
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Hi I was wondering if I could keep a African Butterfly Fish in my 38 gallon. I only want one ant the params are pH around 6, Ammonia 0, nitrate 0, ... It's good water but would the fish be okay in my type of water. The Gh is around 4 . The tank mates are 12 neons, they rarely leave the middle column area of the tank and I guess if the african fish decides to eat some It's okay. There are some bottom feeders and 2 rams. would this work or not.
The Parameter of PH may be a little low as it is suggested that it should be around 6.5 ph

I would think that if the fish gets hungry and if the fish can fit in the Butterfly fish mouth you would loose them

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Freshwater butterflyfish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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post #3 of 12 Old 02-05-2011, 07:15 AM
The African Butterfly fish looks mean but are community fish. They only feed off the top. Te only problem you might have is your parameters.

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post #4 of 12 Old 02-05-2011, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
I put around six for I used strips to test and I didn't get a clear reading

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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post #5 of 12 Old 02-14-2011, 12:16 AM
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I had a pair of African butterflies for several years and they were very hardy fish once they were settled in. I kept them with all kinds of non-aggressive fish and they did eat several smaller fish, but I completely expected that to happen.
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post #6 of 12 Old 02-16-2011, 01:17 PM
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Your water parameters are fine. I maintained a pair of these interesting fish for years in a tank with very soft (zero GH and KH) and acidic water.

Jumping out was the biggest problem; they will readily jump and the tank must be well covered.

And they will eat, or attempt to eat, any fish that approaches the surface. And as they have very large mouths (the whole jaw drops) they can handle full-grown neons.

They need lots of floating plants, with sufficient space in between for them to rest at the surface. They swim very little, usually only to "hunt" for food. They are a true ambush predator, sitting motionless for hours.

A pair wold be better than a single fish, as they will interact more. Distinguishing male and female is relative simple; the anal fin of the male is longer and has a distinct notch in it, whereas the female's is basically round. I strongly recommend a pair.

Something as small as a 15g works, though a 20 long would be ideal; as I mentioned, they are not much for swimming, except when feeding or interacting. Quite a fascinating fish.

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post #7 of 12 Old 02-16-2011, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
I later found out that my pH is around 7.4 and the dgh is supposedly still around [says petsmart] so would that work... I might add peat to get it down

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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I later found out that my pH is around 7.4 and the dgh is supposedly still around [says petsmart] so would that work... I might add peat to get it down
That will work too. With a low hardness the pH will drop once the tank is running, peat will quicken it initially. I think we talked about this in another thread.

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post #9 of 12 Old 02-17-2011, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
yes we did alright... now All i need is the fish

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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post #10 of 12 Old 02-18-2011, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
the tap is 7.6 but I got one and it is eating my guppy fry. [I used them to help him get used to the tank]. He seems fine and is swimming about. I could not get tw because my total purchase on just fish would've been 26 dollars. Maybe in the future I will get one more but not now... Is 12 us dollars a little bit more than usual for one. I also bought water lettuce.. any special way to propagate or is it like duck weed.

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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