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post #11 of 20 Old 11-22-2011, 03:48 PM
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Ok, so just to be safe I won't do the shrimp. By Group i'm assuming you just mean whatever gender, in the case of the Licorice Gourami, correct? Oh, and since I haven't seen any Boraras species of Rasbora at any LFS in the area for about 6 months, would Coral Red Pencilfish be a suitable subsitute? They seem to have similar requirments to these gouramis, but just checking.
In store tanks these fish are usually very "washed out" and differentiating male/female might be very difficult. A group of 7-8 should provide both. It wasn't until mine were in that 10g for a couple weeks that the two males became obvious. And now, they darken significantly when they challenge each other, which is quite beautiful to see (the colour change, I mean).

Nannostomus mortenthaleri do need identical water parameters. I have a group of these, I also have the closely-related N. rubrocaudatus. I intend to reset my 29g for the latter, and when I do I plan to move the Licorice in with them. I have Boraras maculatus in with the N. mortenthaleri and there has never been any aggression by the pencils to the much smaller and equally-bright red Boraras, at least not that I have observed. On the other side, the pencils are large enough that I don't expect the Licorice to go after them. But I can't say yet.

Another probably suitable tankmate for the gourami species would be Trigonostigma hengeli or T. espei. I had these in with my two Chocolate species with no issues. The Harlequin rasbora is the same genus but a bit larger, though also peaceful.

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post #12 of 20 Old 11-22-2011, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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I look up those tankmates, thank you for all the suggestions :) I'm going to try really hard to see the gender of the Licorice Gourami when I find them, if I'm correct the males have color and the females are brown, correct?
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I look up those tankmates, thank you for all the suggestions :) I'm going to try really hard to see the gender of the Licorice Gourami when I find them, if I'm correct the males have color and the females are brown, correct?
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Yes, the males are more colourful and the females a plain brownish and slightly larger (assuming same age fish of course). Some suggest the male's ventral fins are longer than the females but this can be difficult to observe in store tanks too.

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Hrmm, ok, I guess I'll just have to look very closely and, if that doesn't work, just guess, I guess. Thank you for all of your help, Byron!
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Ive been searching through your profiles, and I've really taken a liking to Scarlet Badis. It would seem that they have generally the same water parameters( are they fine with Black Water?) as the other, albeit bordering the Chocolate Gourami's Parameters. If I can't find one of the originally planned fish, could I use these? Just trying to know the limits :) thanks!
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Ive been searching through your profiles, and I've really taken a liking to Scarlet Badis. It would seem that they have generally the same water parameters( are they fine with Black Water?) as the other, albeit bordering the Chocolate Gourami's Parameters. If I can't find one of the originally planned fish, could I use these? Just trying to know the limits :) thanks!
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Yes, I have a small group of these in with the Licorice actually.

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Really? That's awesome, I think this tank will be beautiful :) thanks for the help!
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Wait, I nearly forgot something. Are fake plants acceptable? I'll still use allot of real ones, but fake ones would be nice to fill out the tank more. Thanks and sorry for all the questions :/
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Wait, I nearly forgot something. Are fake plants acceptable? I'll still use allot of real ones, but fake ones would be nice to fill out the tank more. Thanks and sorry for all the questions :/
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The fish won't care, as long as they have thick cover. Fake and live plants together sometimes make the fake ones more obviously fake, so I would stay with all live. Many suitable plants will very quickly fill in any space.

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post #20 of 20 Old 11-25-2011, 12:17 PM Thread Starter
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ok, thank you Byron :)
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