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Old 09-02-2009, 10:46 PM   #11
 
I just bought a queen sword plant not as fancy as the one I had before but hopefully i will have better luck with it. I will change the light thank u for the tip I am using nutafin plant fertilizer sticks it is what the people at the pet store recomended but I am quicky learning that that's not always best are they ok say's I only need to replace them once A year?? I just found out my nitrates are high and when I got back for the pet store I discovered I lost my silver molly "capa" (named by my 3 year old) hopefully the plant can help I have also noticed my green molly "spikey" isn't doing so well I did a 25 percent water change today other then that is there a quck fix?? sorry again for firing all these questions at u
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:33 PM   #12
 
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I just bought a queen sword plant not as fancy as the one I had before but hopefully i will have better luck with it. I will change the light thank u for the tip I am using nutafin plant fertilizer sticks it is what the people at the pet store recomended but I am quicky learning that that's not always best are they ok say's I only need to replace them once A year?? I just found out my nitrates are high and when I got back for the pet store I discovered I lost my silver molly "capa" (named by my 3 year old) hopefully the plant can help I have also noticed my green molly "spikey" isn't doing so well I did a 25 percent water change today other then that is there a quck fix?? sorry again for firing all these questions at u
This time your pet store advice was very good. Those fertilizer sticks are amazing. I bought a package (six sticks) last March and put one next to the base of each of the largest swords in my 90g tank. Swords are heavy feeders, and although the weekly liquid fertilizer was keeping them green, I decided to experiment with substrate fertilizer. In early July I set up my (empty) 115g and moved the plants, wood and fish from the 90g into the 115g. I had three Echinodorus major plants in the 90g, and one of them was three times the size of the other two. I had never thought much about why, until I pulled them out to move them and discovered the largest one had one of these sticks entangled in the root mass, and the other two did not. Similar results with Echinodorus bleheri convinced me these sticks do work. They also last a year (according to the package) whereas the Flourish tabs have to be replaced every 3 months. The sticks are consequently a significant savings in money.

Your sword should do very well with the substrate stick and liquid fertilization weekly, and with the new light tube.

When you say nitrates are high, what is the number? Nitrates are harmless unless very high, but "high' can mean different things to different people. I'll have more on this when I know your reading.

On the loss of the molly, this is due to the tank cycling, probably the nitrite stage this time; I explained how it works in an earlier post. If there are still live fish in the tank, I would immediately get a bottle of Seachem's "Stabil;ity" and dose the tank as recommended; it is live bacteria that immediately seeds the aquarium and these bacteria consume ammonia and nitrite and multiply accordingly. Hagen/Nutrafin's "Cycle' also works the same although it is not live bacteria, but I have used it and it does work. I prefer Stability.

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Old 09-03-2009, 01:44 PM   #13
 
so I still need the weekly fertilizer?? I am niot sure of the number I just got it tested at the pet store and he said it was high and to replace the filter I have been using cycle from the start I will pick up a bottle of stability tonight. I was thinking of doing another water change today is this a good idea?? he still isn''t doing well haning out at the botton not really moving and upright more then straight and Dirty (my powder blue gourami) is also acting sick spending alot of time (way more then usall) on the top of the tank. and when he dose swim around it seems to be in circles instead of straight and he is getting a very dark blue line down the front of his boby (this has been happening for about a week now but becuse he is a blue fish i didn't know if it was normal or not) and his body seems to have a bend to it?? am I over reacting ??
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:19 PM   #14
 
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so I still need the weekly fertilizer?? I am niot sure of the number I just got it tested at the pet store and he said it was high and to replace the filter I have been using cycle from the start I will pick up a bottle of stability tonight. I was thinking of doing another water change today is this a good idea?? he still isn''t doing well haning out at the botton not really moving and upright more then straight and Dirty (my powder blue gourami) is also acting sick spending alot of time (way more then usall) on the top of the tank. and when he dose swim around it seems to be in circles instead of straight and he is getting a very dark blue line down the front of his boby (this has been happening for about a week now but becuse he is a blue fish i didn't know if it was normal or not) and his body seems to have a bend to it?? am I over reacting ??
Don't touch the filter. It is very difficult giving advice when we don't have the actual numbers. If you have fish dying within the first two weeks, I think most would agree with me it is probably ammonia or nitrite, not nitrate. And anyway, to actually kill fish, nitrates would have to be extremely high which is just not probable in a tank this new. And further, the solution to high nitrates is always do a partial water change. Not that I'm suggesting this here, yet...just pointing out the correct solution for high nitrates.

Cycle has worked for me and others, similar to Stability. It depends upon what may be causing the fish losses. If it is ammonia or nitrite poisioning, Stability will help; I know of nothing else for this except a partial water change--and on this issue, yes, I would do one each day. As you have cycle, do a 50% change, use a good conditioner of course, and add Cycle. None of this can hurt.

If the deaths are due to something other than the above, I am at a loss to offer anything. I'm not good at diseases, others here are; hopefully they will be following this thread and jump in if they recognize something.

Relatively unimportant until we resolve the other, but weekly liquid fertilization is always beneficial in a planted tank, even with enriched substrate. It all has to balance though, so very little once a week may be enough. Wait until things settle down before putting more stuff in the tank. And if you only have one sword plant in the tank with a Plant-Gro stick beside its roots, that may do it. Monitor the plant. Expect some of the existing leaves to die, that is natural, and new leaves will grow; won't go into the "why" now. If the new leaves that will be nice and green begin turning yellow later, liquid Flourish Comprehensive will remedy that.

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Old 09-03-2009, 02:36 PM   #15
 
What do u mean don't touch the filter I have already changed the carbon was this bad??
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What do u mean don't touch the filter I have already changed the carbon was this bad??
I was referring to the advice from the store to change your filter.

Carbon removes substances from the water, but it exhausts its capability fairly quickly, depending upon how much stuff it is removing. I don't use carbon (in planted aquaria it is not recommended because it removes things the plants handle) so i am not sure how long it remains active. In a new tank carbon should help to clarify the water. Replacing it can do no harm.

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Old 09-03-2009, 05:21 PM   #17
 
I went to do a 50 percent water change like u sugested and Meggie (my delmation molly) was dead she wasn't even one of the ones I was worried about there seems to be a cloud of death over my tank right now
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