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post #31 of 48 Old 12-29-2010, 12:21 PM Thread Starter
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I am open to non-gourami suggestions to go with 1 group of 3 spots (1m,2f). What about Zebra Danios, Tiger Barbs, Dwarf Rainbow fish, or other Asian fish like those? I want Asian fish only.

I am open to suggestions, but I would like to keep 1 pair (m,f) or group (m,2f) of gouramis if that is Ok.

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post #32 of 48 Old 12-29-2010, 01:33 PM
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I am open to non-gourami suggestions to go with 1 group of 3 spots (1m,2f). What about Zebra Danios, Tiger Barbs, Dwarf Rainbow fish, or other Asian fish like those? I want Asian fish only.

I am open to suggestions, but I would like to keep 1 pair (m,f) or group (m,2f) of gouramis if that is Ok.
There are many Asian fish that do well with gourami, but ironically those you mention do not. [And Rainbowfish are Australian, if that matters.]

Tiger barbs can be terrors with gourami; the sedate gourami cruising among plants with flowing fins and those pelvic "feelers" is too great a target for nippy Tigers. This is a very bad combination.

Zebra danio are fine except they are very active swimmers, and this can upset the sedate gourami.

Good companions for any gourami are inactive (relatively) shoaling fish such as any of the medium/larger rasbora species, loaches (small/medium sized species only), and among the barbs the only one I am familiar with that would work is the beautiful Black Ruby Barb. [You said Asian only, so I leave out otherwise suitable fish like medium/larger peaceful characins (tetra) and peaceful catfish.] All of these are in our profiles; there are several rasbora, just forget the dwarf ones that would be eaten by Pearl or Blue Gourami.

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There are many Asian fish that do well with gourami, but ironically those you mention do not. [And Rainbowfish are Australian, if that matters.]

Tiger barbs can be terrors with gourami; the sedate gourami cruising among plants with flowing fins and those pelvic "feelers" is too great a target for nippy Tigers. This is a very bad combination.

Zebra danio are fine except they are very active swimmers, and this can upset the sedate gourami.

Good companions for any gourami are inactive (relatively) shoaling fish such as any of the medium/larger rasbora species, loaches (small/medium sized species only), and among the barbs the only one I am familiar with that would work is the beautiful Black Ruby Barb. [You said Asian only, so I leave out otherwise suitable fish like medium/larger peaceful characins (tetra) and peaceful catfish.] All of these are in our profiles; there are several rasbora, just forget the dwarf ones that would be eaten by Pearl or Blue Gourami.

Byron.
I actually figured that none of the fish I mentioned would work (for all the reasons you mentioned). I have got to research some fish. Larger Rasbora? What are those? Can you recommend any kind of loaches?

You said that black ruby barbs will work with (3) 3 spot gouramis? And they are Asian? Interesting! I think I saw some of those at my lfs!

I don't know why, but I thought that rainbow fish were Asian. Oops!

If you could recommend a species of Rabora, I will probably put them in with the gourami and maybe Black Ruby Barbs (if they will work-out in the tank). I can use AqAdvisor to get my stocking plan started once I figure out the species, then I'll post the plan on here and we can all tweek it.

Thanks for the suggestions Byron!

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CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
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0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

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post #34 of 48 Old 12-29-2010, 02:14 PM
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I actually figured that none of the fish I mentioned would work (for all the reasons you mentioned). I have got to research some fish. Larger Rasbora? What are those? Can you recommend any kind of loaches?

You said that black ruby barbs will work with (3) 3 spot gouramis? And they are Asian? Interesting! I think I saw some of those at my lfs!

I don't know why, but I thought that rainbow fish were Asian. Oops!

If you could recommend a species of Rabora, I will probably put them in with the gourami and maybe Black Ruby Barbs (if they will work-out in the tank). I can use AqAdvisor to get my stocking plan started once I figure out the species, then I'll post the plan on here and we can all tweek it.

Thanks for the suggestions Byron!
Go through the various rasbora in our profiles, under Cyprinids. There are several species. Just leave out the dwarfs which are in the Boraras genus, I think we have one of these so far included. The Black Ruby are Asian, lovely fish; a group of 7 in your 55g would be lovely. And a couple rasbora groups. Loaches, again we have most of the commonly-seen ones, just check the sizes and get the under 6 inch species, ther4e are several that attain 4-6 inches max. Need a group too, 5-6 works well. Some are very peaceful, one or two of these are not, check that also.

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I think by larger rasbora he means a rasbora that is large...

Trigonostigma espei - Lambchop rasbora, Trigonostigma heteromorpha - Harlequin rasbora, and Hi-spot rasbora - Rasbora dorsiocellata come to mind.

There's a gourami that I'm in the market for, but it's a bit on the sensitive side... probably not for a beginner.
Google "Samurai Gourami" for pretty pictures.

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post #36 of 48 Old 12-29-2010, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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Here is what I came up with on AqAdvisor; http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php?A...rchMode=simple

Feel free to make suggestions! Please.

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Here is what I came up with on AqAdvisor; AqAdvisor - Intelligent Freshwater Tropical Fish Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor

Feel free to make suggestions! Please.
I would agree you still have room in the tank, and that is always a good thing; down the road you might see something that would fit in and it is nice to have space. One rarely finds all the fish you'd like at once, at least I never have. Months later something I want turns up.

Their comments on the aggressiveness of the Blue Gourami made me check our profile again; I think this might be worth considering. I note I left rasbora out of the compatibility section for this species. As a suggestion, how about Pearl Gourami? A trio of one male/two female. Such a beautiful fish, and often unsuitable because of too small a tank, but your 55g is ideal. The rasbora especially the hengeli (I have a shoal in my 70) are smallish fish and don;t grow much or fast. I could see them disappearing with Blues.

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post #38 of 48 Old 01-02-2011, 04:35 AM
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Pearl gouramis are excellent community fish, even with small fish. I suggest them 9 times out of 10 over the 3 spot.

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post #39 of 48 Old 01-02-2011, 11:16 PM Thread Starter
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What about some Pearl gourami (3) and Sparkling Gourami (3-10) along with some tiny rasbora and some Ruby Barbs (7)? Would something like that work?

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CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

HermitBase - 10g
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post #40 of 48 Old 01-03-2011, 07:46 AM
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Yes. I'm not personally familiar with black ruby barbs, but I hear they are peaceful.

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125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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