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Old 09-17-2012, 10:45 AM   #1
 
aggressive honey gourami..

I bought 2 sunset honey gouramis over the weeknd and they are in a 5-gal QT now. I suspect they are both are males, but difficult to tell as they are still fairly young. (I'd like a pair, though). One of them is chasing the the other around most of the time. I know it could be new environment and small space..
My questions: how to deal with this bully?
My main tank is 25 gal moderately planted with rasboras (7). would they be OK? If not what can I do?
Also, I'd a like small school of tetras (cardinals/neons) added later. Will they be OK? Assuming bullying stops, will it resurface later with new additions? Thanks.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:03 AM   #2
 
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I bought 2 sunset honey gouramis over the weeknd and they are in a 5-gal QT now. I suspect they are both are males, but difficult to tell as they are still fairly young. (I'd like a pair, though). One of them is chasing the the other around most of the time. I know it could be new environment and small space..
My questions: how to deal with this bully?
My main tank is 25 gal moderately planted with rasboras (7). would they be OK? If not what can I do?
Also, I'd a like small school of tetras (cardinals/neons) added later. Will they be OK? Assuming bullying stops, will it resurface later with new additions? Thanks.

Many of the Gourami are best kept one to a tank unless male female pair and/or the tank is larger than 40 gal and even then,,males may not tolerate other males.
I would go with the cardinal tetra's who like the warm water that gourami prefer (78 to 82 degrees F) while the neon's prefer much cooler temps (73 to 76 degrees F) IME.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:12 AM   #3
 
Thanks for the quick response. I did my research before buying these for compatibility etc. I've read these are very peaceful among small gouramis. Also, I have read where folks kept more than one male honey gouramis in a 20+ gal tank. That's why I went for these. Now I see this aggression, I am a bit concerned about the overall peace of my community tank....
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:25 AM   #4
 
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Thanks for the quick response. I did my research before buying these for compatibility etc. I've read these are very peaceful among small gouramis. Also, I have read where folks kept more than one male honey gouramis in a 20+ gal tank. That's why I went for these. Now I see this aggression, I am a bit concerned about the overall peace of my community tank....
Yes,,the honey gourami are the least aggressive, along with the Pearl gourami, but least aggressive and Non aggressive are subjective term's.
Could very well be the two will get along after moving them from quarantine to the larger tank, but they may not.
I have kept them a few times and some are passive,other's weren't.
When keeping more than one,,the larger tank's work better than smaller tank's IME.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:13 PM   #5
 
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Also, "small group" does not mean 2. If they were male/female, they would likely (but not guaranteed, as 1077 said) get along. Or if there were 4-5, with male/female present, the males would likely be OK except when spawning. And to repeat what 1077 mentioned, larger tank space is always more likely to result in peace.

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:59 PM   #6
 
Hi Byron,
Thanks for your input. I am not sure where I had mentioned "small group" earlier! In any case, I did read the profiles here and in other sites before I purchased these 2. And I always do if not to buy, just to gather knowledge. I truly appreciate very much you and others for doing this great service to the aquarium community :)
Just to update the situation, I introduced the timid one in to the main tank about after a week in QT. May be not long enough, but I didn't want the poor guy too stressed and that kind of defeats the purpose of QT! He is happy in the 25 gal tank with many plants. Then after about 3 days, I put the bully in. I always switched the lights of in the room (and the tank) when I introduce new fish and also put a large towel over the tank. Initially, the timid fish approached the erstwhile bully and the bully swam away! I was worried about the tables being turned! After about 5 minutes I took a peak in the tank, the two were doing that "dance" - bodies side to side! As I was wondering, if they were a pair, they swam away! Looks like they both are males and I 've read some where, even males do the "dance" to establish dominance. So last couple of days they are both swimming happily sometimes near each other and other times on either end of the tank. Looks like all's well :)

Edit: Never mind. I guess you're referring to the "small group" in the profile page!

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Old 09-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #7
 
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The males of many fish species will display/challenge each other whether females are present or not. Some do this continually without taking it further, while some species may pursue it in various ways. For us, being able to observe nature is part of the reward of having an aquarium.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:40 AM   #8
 
You're right. It's interesting to watch the fish behaviour and their different personalities! To further update, this morning I observed there some dominance between them, but roles are reversed! Now the previously timid guy, having the benefit of being in the tank earlier, thinks he's the boss - sort of! I mean there's just some minor shooing away, but not constant chasing. Specifically, the "old" bully was nibbling on a shrimp pellet on the floor and the "new" boss saw that and swam close to the site and chased the other guy away! Reminds me of my kid days when used to watch the behaviour of groups of chickens in our neighbourhood - the constant battle for alpha male position among the roosters!! Very fascinating, indeed :)
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