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post #31 of 39 Old 11-05-2013, 03:57 PM
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i didn't know 86 was a critical temperature, ... good to know
i think in my tank it was 82-86 about, ... i was hesitant about getting the heat up too much., ... i guess then it was better to do both.

but it's nice to hear that 86 alone would do the job, ... removing the salt afterwards is water changes only :(
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post #32 of 39 Old 11-05-2013, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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Actually the heat alone is effective. It does speed up the life cycle and once it's to the free swimming stage it's not tolerant of 86f and dies. There is a heat resistant strain(I haven't dealt with that ever though) from what I have heard that strain is better dealt with at 88f. The salt isn't necessary as the heat alone will kill it.. I've used this method as well as many others very successfully and with 0 fish loss. However if you feel you need a back up plan to assist the heat then salt would be the only thing I'd consider.. but still I prefer not to over stress the fish with multiple treatments.


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Yeah I was really unhappy to see him missing, been lucky so far. I didnt even find him during the water change so who knows where he went. But anyhoo, water change complete, filters restocked and heater cranked up to 86. Now... We wait...lol
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post #33 of 39 Old 11-06-2013, 10:54 AM Thread Starter
How long should it take for a 200w heater to get a 45 gal tank up to 86 degrees? The tank was already at 82 when i raised the temp lastnight and theres a powerhead right next to the heater so I know theres plenty of circulation. It wasnt much higher this morn and the light is on in the heater so it is working. Is my heater not working right or is this normal?
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post #34 of 39 Old 11-07-2013, 04:56 AM
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Your room temperature would make a difference. Your 200w heater should raise your tank water 10-15 degrees above your room temperature. You might also check your thermometer for accuracy.

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post #35 of 39 Old 11-08-2013, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
The temperature seems to have leveled off at 86-87 degrees these past couple days though I lost power today while at work which caused it to drop a little. No biggie. The problem is 1 of the cardinals is now dying from what appears to be a secondary fungal infection of the eyes and head. Is this a common issue with ich? I was told that ich can surpress the immune system leaving fish more prone to other diseases true? 2 weeks is a long time and I dont wanna lose anymore fish. Is there anything I can do to prevent anymore losses?
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The temperature seems to have leveled off at 86-87 degrees these past couple days though I lost power today while at work which caused it to drop a little. No biggie. The problem is 1 of the cardinals is now dying from what appears to be a secondary fungal infection of the eyes and head. Is this a common issue with ich? I was told that ich can surpress the immune system leaving fish more prone to other diseases true? 2 weeks is a long time and I dont wanna lose anymore fish. Is there anything I can do to prevent anymore losses?
Well the cardinals are the ones that came in sick(can't remember for sure) right? They are going to suffer from as you said lack of ability to fight secondary infections. I wouldn't deviate from your current treatment. You must pick a treatment and commit to it.. otherwise you leave everyone else in the tank at high risk with the ich. I can't promise how well your cardinals will fair. You may lose a few but thats nothing of your doing. But do keep all parameters of the tank in check..namely the nitrate issue. Clean water and heat treat for ich. Don't do another treatment after another after another.. that compromises the rest of your stock.
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post #37 of 39 Old 11-11-2013, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
Looks like Im finally making some lee'way. The ich appears to be finally going away and my tank finally looks clean and pretty again. Thank you everyone for all your awesome and incredibly helpful advice. Once again I cant say enough how much I love this forum!
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Fantastic! Glad to hear things are on the mend.
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post #39 of 39 Old 11-17-2013, 11:15 AM Thread Starter
Ok tomorrow will be the last day of the 2 week heat treatment for the ich. Im still seeing a few (2-4) spots, though small (scaring?) on 2 of the cardinals. Think Im gonna do a water change and vacuuming tonight or tomorrow and continue the heat treatment for 1 more week just to be safe.
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