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post #151 of 155 Old 03-06-2014, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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beaslebob, your equation is wrong by the way,

plants will lower those numbers that you so love as proof you don't have to do water changes

and a water change itself will lower those numbers even more than plants will

any bacterioplankton will lower those numbers as well, but you have no idea what you have in your tank at that level ... well till equalibrium was reached, then it won't change anything

you have nothing in place to convert any plankton into larger life forms to truly lower levels

any leaf that dies if going to drastically raise levels beyond your wrong formula

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beaslbob, you are quick to show how water changes give no net improvement on water quality, maintaining a status quo

yet that same formula should show your tank to be in the hundreds of thousands as by your own equation those numbers will continue to rise without limit as you are not removing anything.
the formula is precisely and correct within the assumptions presented. and it does reflect real world experiences.

I does contain many simplifying assumptions with the objective of determining how effective water changes are.


Care to show any experiments or measurement to support you assertions like any leaf that dies makes drastic level rises?

Hmmmm kinds like peat moss in a new tank.


Oh yea. dern I already submitted those measurements on post one of this thread.


maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #152 of 155 Old 03-06-2014, 10:39 AM Thread Starter
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Great post flear... so much that is known in the hobby, but oh so much that is still mystery! Keep up that never-ending quest for knowledge!
Are you SURE phosphate does not accelerate algae growth? There are several published reports that indicate otherwise. I personaly don't know. But most fish flakes/ pellets will add phosphate to the tank.

Bob-Will you at least admit that your method is experimental?
I have successfully experimented with this methods for the last 40 years.

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #153 of 155 Old 03-06-2014, 01:23 PM
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But how is peat moss in the substrate going to help Carlos' already acidic tank? And I hope there's not another nonsense formula for that!

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post #154 of 155 Old 03-06-2014, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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But how is peat moss in the substrate going to help Carlos' already acidic tank? And I hope there's not another nonsense formula for that!

Probably not at all.

What will help is the no water change, no prime, and plants.

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #155 of 155 Old 03-06-2014, 02:57 PM
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Let's get off the Carlos subject . I'm genuinely worried bob will screw up things for him worse then they already are ..
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