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Old 03-05-2014, 12:47 PM   #111
 
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I don't think he's ever claimed it was a better way to do it. I know he's refused to answer such questions every time someone asks, though.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:56 PM   #112
 
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You are the only one who cared about a supposed popularity contest, bob .
One single Carlos a method does not make . Nor do I think you had any hand in what happened with Carlos . Nor do I care about Carlos . What I do care to mention is your tanks are very dirty. I would never allow that in my home .. That's ignoring all the other consequences of your "method ".

I'll also point out. You keep livebearers . They breed like rabbits . If you had a healthy tank why aren't you over run with fish ? Just descendants of previous fish .. Look around this site to others who keep livebearers but with proper aquarium keeping . Their fish live along with the babies and they end up with tons of fish .. Too many really . Why are yours dying off ? I like keeping the fish I purchased for a LONG time .. Not for them to breed so much to make up for my neglect .


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You are correct. I do keep live bearers.
and tetras, and angelfish, plecos, goldfish, hacetfish, danios, bettas, even some cichlids.

And the marine side, tangs, psuedochromas, mollies, coral catfish, plus more.

All of which I have kept for years.

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Old 03-05-2014, 12:59 PM   #113
 
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I heard of your "miraculous" newbie tank fix on another forum .. Years ago .

I know because .. Well let's talk about first the Africans .. They lose color if you go too long between water changes .. They need extreme filtration and circulation or they kill eachother as well . How do I know that .. Not only from studying them like the full on nerd I am but skis from power outs .. Other African keepers can confirm this easily . A loss of circulation and filtration results in a murder spree really quickly . I have gone out of town as well for 2 weeks them another week after that leaving the tank for no water changes for 6 weeks . Health declines at that point . Also .. You can't plant an African tank .. You simply can't .. Both the water and the fish themselves don't allow it.
Rams also don't tolerate subpar conditions .. Ask any breeder.. And many keepers .
Livebearers allow for so much error it's tricked you into thinking this is ok. Start keeping more advanced fish and see what happens. Oh.. And my stiphodon gobies .. They don't tolerate poor water either ..
Out of our 55k + members .. You are THE only one who actually advocates this insane way of keeping a tank and actually claims it's better . It CAN be done but it isn't even close to the best. I don't like bad advice or subpar advice being freely wielded to unsuspecting people who don't know better .. It's very predatory of you


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The few africans I kept a few years ago seemed to have excellent color and health.

Perhaps a tank filtered with live plants is not all that subpar.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:01 PM   #114
 
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I don't think he's ever claimed it was a better way to do it. I know he's refused to answer such questions every time someone asks, though.

I hope whoever is not answering questions will step up with answers.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:21 PM   #115
 
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I hope whoever is not answering questions will step up with answers.

I don't think he's ever claimed it was a better way to do it. I know he's refused to answer such questions every time someone asks, though.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:23 PM   #116
 
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The few africans I kept a few years ago seemed to have excellent color and health.

Perhaps a tank filtered with live plants is not all that subpar.

Are you sure what they were supposed to look like ? And do tell .. How long did they live ? Are you saying you planted their tank ?? You must not have had rift lake cichlids . You even have to add marine salt to those tanks for proper health and longevity .
Exactly what species have you kept of African cichlids .


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Old 03-05-2014, 01:40 PM   #117
 
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Wait.. A tang? What species did you keep . I don't recall you mentioning owning a tank larger then 55g


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Old 03-05-2014, 01:45 PM   #118
 
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Are you sure what they were supposed to look like ? And do tell .. How long did they live ? Are you saying you planted their tank ?? You must not have had rift lake cichlids . You even have to add marine salt to those tanks for proper health and longevity .
Exactly what species have you kept of African cichlids .


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No extensive just 3-4 years and admittedly limited experience.

They were in planted tank with a partition to protect the plants.

Perhaps not rift lake as well.

Now suppose this doesn't work for rift lake cichlids.

so what?

Keep this method away from a newbies first tank? Nawwwww.

Besides (other then just saying it won't work) Why would a tank balanced out with plants or macro algaes not work? It is because the poisionous fish wastes are being removed too fast. Because the heavy ions are not present, because the water is too clear?

After all marine tanks are the further extreme and work just fine with macro algaes.

So I find it very very hard to believe that a brackish tank would not work as well.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:48 PM   #119
 
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Wait.. A tang? What species did you keep . I don't recall you mentioning owning a tank larger then 55g


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I had a yellow tang and "dori" regal tang in the 55g. Both grew from a small size to 3" in a year and were in the tank for 5 years. Final size was 4-5 inches. then we took the tank down.
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