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Nitrates in planted tank?!
Old 12-05-2013, 04:10 PM   #11
 
For the record, here is the anubias
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:40 PM   #12
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aww poor thing. I can't really tell what is what from that pic, but....I'm thinking maybe a little too much light for the anubias and not enough ferts for the sword plant allowed the algae to take over :(

do you gravel vaccum? that tends to take the nutrients out from the gravel.


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Old 12-05-2013, 06:38 PM   #13
 
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aww poor thing. I can't really tell what is what from that pic, but....I'm thinking maybe a little too much light for the anubias and not enough ferts for the sword plant allowed the algae to take over :(

do you gravel vaccum? that tends to take the nutrients out from the gravel.


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I gravel vac maybe 1/8 of the tank every 6 weeks or so. I'm not real adamant or meticulous with it. I thought maybe the t10's were just getting old and not penetrating down far enough, so I was thinking too little light. I was adding seachems comprehensive liquid fert every week, but stopped thinking it maybe adding to my nitrates. As you can see, my stem plants are growing rapidly, to the point where I am going to have to prune soon. The brown is really irritating me. I went ahead and bought a few mystery snails tonight to see if they'd eat the algae up. I only have to magfloat my glass like once a month, so it's not really growing on the glass much, but the left side of the tank does get some ambient sunlight because of the door beside it. Wonder if that's adding to the problem. I have my lighting schedule from 8am-5pm. Do you think I should adjust that? I really just want some big luxurious plants in my tank. I'm really to do whatever is necessary. Except CO2. I had a bad experience with that and lost a fish (RIP Sheldon).
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:48 AM   #14
 
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I gravel vac maybe 1/8 of the tank every 6 weeks or so. I'm not real adamant or meticulous with it. I thought maybe the t10's were just getting old and not penetrating down far enough, so I was thinking too little light. I was adding seachems comprehensive liquid fert every week, but stopped thinking it maybe adding to my nitrates. As you can see, my stem plants are growing rapidly, to the point where I am going to have to prune soon. The brown is really irritating me. I went ahead and bought a few mystery snails tonight to see if they'd eat the algae up. I only have to magfloat my glass like once a month, so it's not really growing on the glass much, but the left side of the tank does get some ambient sunlight because of the door beside it. Wonder if that's adding to the problem. I have my lighting schedule from 8am-5pm. Do you think I should adjust that? I really just want some big luxurious plants in my tank. I'm really to do whatever is necessary. Except CO2. I had a bad experience with that and lost a fish (RIP Sheldon).

actually it sounds to me like you're almost all balanced out. Hopefully if the plants continue growing things will just get better and betterer.

You migh try killing the lights for a few days to see if the brown dies off. Or possibily blocking the sunlight to the tank.

But overall it sound like you're almost balanced out.


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Old 12-06-2013, 09:56 AM   #15
 
prune and replant the prunings
nitrates at 40 should be fine
a ph of 7.4 you'll have ammonium that plants will love, you'll have nitrates that the plants can consume as well

the brown stuff, ... diatomes would make sence as suggested except for the age of the tank, damn, so close yet so far off :(

cyano is a possibility
green dust algae (granted i've never heard of it on plants)
other algaes (pay more attention to the shape and growth than the color, the color is not as accurate. ... i think the only color i have not heard algae take is blue, ... but reds, oranges, browns, greens, even near black, ... thousands of different species out there.

let the plants grow, prune, replant, and repeat, till things get to where you want.
doze, tab, whatever you use for the substrate

if you want to change the gravel to something finer, ... might be a pain in the rear, might be worth the extra work, you'll know the answer to that (just don't layer sand or something overtop of the old gravel - very lazy, but a good chance to smother the bacteria, create an ammonia spike and remove the ability to process that ammonia ... all at once :) ... damn :( ... i've heard of people doing that,
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:44 AM   #16
 
Thanks everyone for your help! I really wish we had not went with gravel. Live and learn. Maybe one day we will change it out, but it wont be anytime soon ( i have stress fractures in both legs and am not suppose to be up on em). We changed it out in my puffer tank and it was a pretty long endeavor. Went well honestlu and the puffers love the new sandy substrate. I just dont want to disturb all the good things i got goin in my tank. I will follow all the advice given though and update in a week or so. Thanks guys!
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:28 PM   #17
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you can pour some well cleaned pool filter sand in :) the only problem might be the color :P


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Old 12-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #18
 
aokashi, ...
be careful about this

adding sand ontop can be dangerous

start on one side of the tank and slowly every few days (couple times a week) cover another foot or so as you go across the tank from one side to the other. ... you really don't want to smother the bacteria and deprive it of oxygen and create an ammonia spike as a mass of bacteria dies off. ... covering your substrate in patches will kill off some but allow enough to remain alive to continue the nitrogen process.

as this is done over the course of several weeks all is good, just takes a lot of time and patience.

or add just enough sand to mix in with the gravel without adding additional depth to the substrate
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:10 PM   #19
 
I wouldnt mix them personally, mainly because i hate this blue gravel so if i were to add sand i would just suck it up and get rid of the gravel.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:27 PM   #20
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Sorry, I should have clarified, I didn't mean for the sand to be covering the gravel, just used for filling the gaps and acting as a bottom layer of substrate.
Either way, sand, having the smaller grain will settle down to the bottom and eventually push the gravel ontop anyway :D

Black sand might not go so bad with the blue gravel :)


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