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post #31 of 54 Old 10-15-2013, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
Beaslbob,

You said, "no mechanical filters or circulation," does that mean you are using a Bottom filter with an air pump, Bottom Box filter with an air pump, or side filters with an air pump. Do you use a Sponge Filter? What exactly do you use?

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You used the terminology, "HOB," is that a Bottom Filter?
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post #32 of 54 Old 10-15-2013, 08:51 PM
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HOB is a hang on back - a power filter.

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post #33 of 54 Old 10-15-2013, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
Like the unbreakable Aquaclear? Ok, thank you!
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post #34 of 54 Old 10-15-2013, 09:56 PM
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Beaslbob,

You said, "no mechanical filters or circulation," does that mean you are using a Bottom filter with an air pump, Bottom Box filter with an air pump, or side filters with an air pump. Do you use a Sponge Filter? What exactly do you use?

Rickey,
Imeant i use no filter at all. the only electrical is the light
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post #35 of 54 Old 10-15-2013, 10:15 PM
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Haha I didn't want to answer for you

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125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
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post #36 of 54 Old 10-16-2013, 12:06 AM Thread Starter
Wow Beaslbob!

So, just Fish, Plants and Light?

One of the large pumps my mom and dad had when I was really young was called, "The Silent Giant."

We had brass valves for the tubing to go to the different tanks. The first type of filter we used was the bottom/undergravel filter. Those work, but they get dirty.

Then we had the hang on the side using with the air pump that you put charcoal and floss on top of it. I recall that you would start that almost by suction.
This works as well or better that any of those Aquaclear/Penguin/Wisper side power filters in my opinion, but the old Aquaclear power filters would last a very long time. I think in one of the 5 gallon tanks we had about 100 guppies...lol...we had so many that my mom just let the angelfish have a feast one day.

My parents never used a bottom box filter, I have used that a few years ago, or the sponge filters. I have never used a Canister filter in my life. The filter I currently have on my 30 gallon tall is a Marineland Eclipse 2, and it is very quiet. They don't sell those very often due to the price. I got it with the used tank for a very inexpensive price as a set.

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My mom, my daughter, and I each have had the same type of dream. The angelfish come out of the tank and start swimming in the air towards us.

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post #37 of 54 Old 10-16-2013, 10:40 AM
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Yep just the fish plants and light. Actually my current 55g with a couple of goldfish doesn't even have the light. but I do use a heater in winter as it is on a back pourch (2 sides in the outside of the house). It got cold enough here there was once a sheet of ice on the top.

I'm organizing the garage (an on going multi year effort) I found a couple of the old silent giant pumps. And there is someone on the web that still rebuilds them. they were the first pump to use silicone diaphram. And had a lifetime warranty and would be rebuilt at no charge.

I also had an old air powered hob filter.

the good ole days.

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/

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post #38 of 54 Old 10-16-2013, 11:27 AM
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Like the unbreakable Aquaclear? Ok, thank you!
Well technically.. Not true. Dropped one and cracked a corner of the outflow lol (still works!! but don't use it )
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post #39 of 54 Old 10-18-2013, 09:29 PM Thread Starter
I bought a ph Test Kit today and found that the aquarium ph is running at 7.2 and the tap water is running at 7.6 or above, (very blue).

Now I am thinking that the Anglefish, since they prefer 6.5-6.8 may have actually died from a ph change.

What do you think? I have this stuff called proper ph 6.5 should I use it?

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post #40 of 54 Old 10-18-2013, 09:37 PM
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Don't touch pH chemicals, I breed angels at 7.6.
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