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Old 10-14-2013, 02:36 AM   #21
 
Ok, I will look for that! I have 10 sword plants right now and they are breaking into little plants but not growing large.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:52 AM   #22
 
The tank set-up I have right now is pretty screwy...

I bought it used, and it may be cursed. It is a 30 Gallon Tall acrylic tank that was used as a saltwater tank by the previous owner. It had some scratches on the inside due to him cleaning off the algae too vigourously. While he was cleaning off the algae he was stung by one of his Lionfish he kept in the tank. There was no antidote for the poison in any hospital and he said that the only relief he got from the pain of the poison was to pour boiling water on it.

It has a nice cabinet with a door, at the bottom it is water damaged. Not having black pain I put black shoe polish on the exposed chunk of water swollen particle board.

The top is an Eclipse 2. The lighting broke so I bought a round under-the-cabinet 9 watt CFL. This brand has a habit of getting too hot, so I used gorilla glue to glue on Computer Heat Sinks to difuse the heat.

At the present time I am using these pond cut-out carbon like things as a filter element for the Eclpse 2.

Gravel, Driftwood, Seashells and some small. It is not bad lookng. The background helps the fish show their colors.
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:05 AM   #23
 
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Watch that particle board, once it gets wet it is nowhere near as structurally sound as it was. You can always reinforce it with some 2x4's & such, a leaking 55 & a melting stand is what got me into building my own stands & racks long ago. One side sank almost an inch, talk about a situation. Older sturdy furniture can often be pressed into service as a stand, this can often be found on the curb, battered but serviceable. I have a couple old night stands as end tables in the basement, yes, next to that couch, that have been used as stands for 20's in the past.

Look into using cheap craft/pillow stuffing from WalMart as media, it's a staple in fishrooms, filter floss. You want the cheapest stuff, no flame retardants.

So why slate bottoms on these old metal frame relics? Way back they used to heat them with small oil burning lamps, glass would crack. This was well before my time, shortly after the discovery of fire, but before the wheel was invented.
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:20 AM   #24
 
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Radiant heat - very interesting
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:19 PM   #25
 
The Goldfsh and its Culure 1902
Out dated, full of information that were accepted standard practice at a time when there were no pets stores, but the chapter on building you own aquariums is interesting. It really make you wonder how this hobby ever survived.

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:24 PM   #26
 
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Couldn't resist chiming in on this one.
Problems with today's fish (my personal hypothesis based on my re-entry into the hobby in 2011). In the early 1980's I owned an aquarium cleaning and setup business, had no issues with fish then and never quarantined anything. Only disease issue then was ick.

1) genetic issues due to inbreeding depression, an issue in some species.
2) fish "back in the day" may have taken weeks to go from the wild to the local fish shop, with any weaklings dying from illness during the very stressful shipping process (pre "Fed-Ex"). This left only the very strongest specimens for sale!
3) DISEASE - recirculated central filter systems moving disease through multiple shop tanks, massive aquaculture and rapid shipping get sick fish to stores and into our homes. Why should the big-box shops care? I have personally spent >$20 in meds to save a $2.50 fish I purchased. Not a bad business model if you sell sick fish and then the meds to treat them! Went through literally 15 juvenile angels from a big box store before I started medicating the QT tank automatically, then lost zero after that.

More fish, better prices, but at a cost...

Regarding test kits. Helpful, but not a requirement unless you need to adjust the water for particular species and/or are impatient to see if your tank has cycled fully!
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #27
 
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Regarding test kits. Helpful, but not a requirement unless you need to adjust the water for particular species and/or are impatient to see if your tank has cycled fully!
You have to admit our understanding of the hobby as change radially in the passed 30 or so years.
The livestock doesn't seem as healthy as in years past. Living and working in the heart of the fish farming area I understand the business model. My thinking for the pass 20 or so year has been to rise a few very high quality Goldfish ( around 500 so a year) that I can sell at what some would think are absurdly high prices. I sell out every year and it pays the bills for my hobby farm.

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Old 10-15-2013, 02:34 PM   #28
 
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You have to admit our understanding of the hobby as change radially in the passed 30 or so years.
Yep, but I still miss my old wooden-handled nets .
I do water changes much, much, more often now than I did then, with much better planted tank results now than I had 30 years ago.

Kudos for keeping up the quality!
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:43 PM   #29
 
interesting thread.

I developed "my" methods after reading a freshwater and marine aquariums article in 1979 by Robert Gasser. and have never looked back.

It worked then and works now.

With no water changes and in about 1/2 dozen cities in the US as I traveled around in the air force.

I also use no mechanical filters or circulation.

which is why my advice is worth at most .02
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:07 PM   #30
 
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Yep, but I still miss my old wooden-handled nets
DIDO, So years ago I was buying up a lot of the 60 era aquarium and equipment I think I still have an air driven HOB filter hanging around.

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