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aging water, chlorine & chloramine ?
Old 01-21-2014, 05:20 PM   #11
 
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Not to pick on this particulas poster but this information while very common is also totally incorrect.

Sure chlorimine is a liquid not a gas and does hang around longer then chlorine gas.

but the gas dissapates very very rapidily like in the time it takes to pour in in the tank.

That does not mean the chlorimine stays in the tank forever.

Water authorities who switched to chlorimine reported problem with algae building up in the distribution system because the chlorimine broke down to ammonia feeding the same algae and bacteria we have in our tanks. So much so that they had to start daily flushing of those systems.

And Water authorities also report that most if not all the chlorimine will be broken down by the time it arrives at your house.


Sure I take precautions like aging my water in tank with plants for a week before adding fish.

And not doing scheduled water changes and just replacing evaporative losses.

But the assertion that chlorimine stays in your tank for ever and will kill any fish you add at any time is flat out false.

still just my .02
It's interesting that you say that. "Chloramines take a very very long time to go away." & "Chloramines never go away unless you use chemicals." is the only thing I've ever heard?
Can you tell me how long exactly it takes to dissipate? And where you've gotten this information?
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Old 01-21-2014, 05:38 PM   #12
 
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"Chloramines provide long-lasting protection as they do not break down quickly in water pipes." -EPA
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:08 PM   #13
 
Boy didn't this start a snow storm.
I'll pull the data there are studies pro and con and a lot of it
Do I like chloramine not really big fan, but a lot better than I like Cholera

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:22 AM   #14
 
but for all the additives they put in the water to get to our homes, ... all the things they are trying to kill off (the reason for those additives)

what about starvation ?
all the bacterial infections we could be subjected to, they all need nutrients to survive and reproduce.

raises a different question, ... we can add toxins (and hope they are not capable of breaking down into sufficient building blocks for life (bacteria to survive), ... or starve them (not done) just ensuring what goes through the pipes could never have at least one key nutrient for things to survive (what we're worried about anyway)

i'm not in charge of finances or health or anything else for those systems, ... but a poison is a poison, that much is simple and true, why not explore other alternatives.

our alternatives, find a way to remove the poisons from our water before it goes into our tanks.

where it raises other questions, i'm not gutsy enough to try, ... but i would guess our aquarium water would be safe to drink, just queezy about as this isn't standard practice, ... and it's beyond full of life.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:43 AM   #15
 
MONEY! We are dealing with millions of miles of pipe that make up an antiquated distribution system. You can very the best filters and treatment processes available but if you can get the product to the customer you screwed.

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Old 01-22-2014, 08:15 AM   #16
 
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It's interesting that you say that. "Chloramines take a very very long time to go away." & "Chloramines never go away unless you use chemicals." is the only thing I've ever heard?
Can you tell me how long exactly it takes to dissipate? And where you've gotten this information?
Basically by experience. Never had any signs of stress using the methods in the link in my Sig
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